For what it's worth, see, https://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Security/Advisory-2014-12-09/
-- Don MacQueen Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory 7000 East Ave., L-627 Livermore, CA 94550 925-423-1062 From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Rich Cook <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 4:43 PM To: Magda Tsintou <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, "Rockers, Elijah D." <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry There will be a tsunami of interest in this if IGLX goes away. This is a legitimate user need. -- Rich On May 18, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Magda Tsintou <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes indeed this will be a serious problem in my lab too. We all rely on that to work on our research projects and I think that most neuroimaging labs do the same and I am sure that there are tons of other applications I can not even think of right now. I really hope that a solution for this will come up so that there will be no problems. When I notified my lab they did not even know how to guide me on this. At least there should be some sort of awareness in the labs about that issue so that not everyone needs to figure it out alone. On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Rich Cook <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There's nothing to transition to! I cannot believe that XOrg thinks that nobody needs to do this, it's mind boggling to me. It's going to be a big problem at our lab. > On May 18, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Rockers, Elijah D. > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello again experts, > > Being that XQ is no longer going to support IGLX, this could interfere > with some current application's functionality in our lab. Should I > notify the application developers that they should consider looking to > transition away from GLX? Or is this kind of ssh X forwarding to the mac > not even possible without GLX (are there alternatives to GLX they could > consider?) > > Apologies, even as a computer nerd, the complexity of graphics > software/hardware remains somewhat of a mystery to me, so I'm not 100% > sure I'm even asking the right questions here.. > > Thanks, > > On 05/18/2016 01:00 AM, > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> Send X11-users mailing list submissions to >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.apple.com_mailman_listinfo_x11-2Dusers&d=DQIGaQ&c=QmPtDiFixEjkMvDKaP3E2Vb9C2z4M0PdarxyAHQ2iDQ&r=xbyrBxm81l6mG_XEX66jgCNTXfK3eVo30T9sVQVTz1Q&m=QxWBPYhrJDLEjKQVCbgqy2m2NQqrzyEAvSuTOE66hAM&s=uXmR_DzubpZgOhdbZ6vJrPsZkcBqBuZoEy_gwXyvHSQ&e= >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of X11-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia) >> 2. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Richard Cook) >> 3. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia) >> 4. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (Rich Cook) >> 5. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (James Gunning) >> 6. Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry (César) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 21:59:06 -0700 >> From: Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: César <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: XQuartz 2.7.9 Update Inquiry >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> There was one change, but it didn't completely address the problem. >> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 21:53, César >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Jeremy, was the OpenGL context clipping bug addressed in 2.7.9, or is it >>> still pending? (I sent you a minimal working example showing the bug some >>> time ago) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> César >>> >>> >>> >>> El miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2016, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of >>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>> reasons. >>> >>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX >>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression in >>> the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and discouraged). >>> >>> --Jeremy >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was >>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered >>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>>> >>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing >>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt to >>>> stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't had >>>> any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape is >>>> still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially installed it >>>> with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>>> >>>> Many Thanks! >>>> Christopher >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of the >>>> conversation... >>>> >>>> Hi Christopher, >>>> >>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were >>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ >>>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed >>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on >>>> that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend >>>> from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck! >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Magda. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I check >>>> for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8. >>>> >>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I >>>> just install it over the previous version? >>>> >>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it >>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a >>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>>> >>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Christopher >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a remote linux >> box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. But the good news it >> that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my problems with 2.7.9 go >> away. >> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of >>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>> reasons. >>> >>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX >>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression in >>> the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and discouraged). >>> >>> --Jeremy >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was >>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered >>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>>> >>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing >>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt to >>>> stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't had >>>> any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape is >>>> still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially installed it >>>> with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>>> >>>> Many Thanks! >>>> Christopher >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of the >>>> conversation... >>>> >>>> Hi Christopher, >>>> >>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were >>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ >>>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed >>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on >>>> that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend >>>> from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck! >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Magda. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I check >>>> for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8. >>>> >>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I >>>> just install it over the previous version? >>>> >>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it >>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a >>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>>> >>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Christopher >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a remote >>> linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. >> That is IGLX. >> >>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my >>> problems with 2.7.9 go away. >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of >>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>>> reasons. >>>> >>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX >>>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression in >>>> the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and discouraged). >>>> >>>> --Jeremy >>>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick >>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was >>>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered >>>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>>>> >>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing >>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt >>>>> to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't >>>>> had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape >>>>> is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>>>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>>>> >>>>> Many Thanks! >>>>> Christopher >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou >>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of the >>>>> conversation... >>>>> >>>>> Hi Christopher, >>>>> >>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were >>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. >>>>> XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed >>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on >>>>> that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly >>>>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have >>>>> nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. >>>>> Good luck! >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Magda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick >>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I >>>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8. >>>>> >>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I >>>>> just install it over the previous version? >>>>> >>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it >>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a >>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>>>> >>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Christopher >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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How are people going to display OpenGL >> graphics over remote X11 if not by GLX? Sorry if this is offtopic. >> >>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at all when >>>> I tried it in 2.7.9. Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a remote >>>> linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. >>> That is IGLX. >>> >>>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made my >>>> problems with 2.7.9 go away. >>>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of >>>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>>>> reasons. >>>>> >>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with IGLX >>>>> (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a regression >>>>> in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>>>> discouraged). >>>>> >>>>> --Jeremy >>>>> >>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick >>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 was >>>>>> just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered >>>>>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing >>>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt >>>>>> to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't >>>>>> had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that Inkscape >>>>>> is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>>>>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>>>>> >>>>>> Many Thanks! >>>>>> Christopher >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou >>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of >>>>>> the conversation... >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Christopher, >>>>>> >>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were >>>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. >>>>>> XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed >>>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working >>>>>> on that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly >>>>>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have >>>>>> nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. >>>>>> Good luck! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Magda. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick >>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I >>>>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with 2.7.8. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I >>>>>> just install it over the previous version? >>>>>> >>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it >>>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a >>>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>>>>> >>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> Christopher >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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How are people going to display >>> OpenGL graphics over remote X11 if not by GLX? Sorry if this is offtopic. >>> >>>> On May 17, 2016, at 10:38 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 22:18, Richard Cook >>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what IGLX is, but GLX did not seem to work for me at all >>>>> when I tried it in 2.7.9. Specifically, I could not run glxgears on a >>>>> remote linux box, which is the canonical GLX test I always use. >>>> That is IGLX. >>>> >>>>> But the good news it that switching back to 2.7.8 was painless and made >>>>> my problems with 2.7.9 go away. >>>>> >>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia >>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of >>>>>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>>>>> reasons. >>>>>> >>>>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with >>>>>> IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>>>>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default >>>>>> and discouraged). >>>>>> >>>>>> --Jeremy >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 >>>>>>> was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I >>>>>>> wondered about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. Nothing >>>>>>> prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an attempt >>>>>>> to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I haven't >>>>>>> had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that >>>>>>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I >>>>>>> initially installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't >>>>>>> broken... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many Thanks! >>>>>>> Christopher >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of >>>>>>> the conversation... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Christopher, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were >>>>>>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>>>>>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. >>>>>>> XQ 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed >>>>>>> forwarding over ssh and given the limited people who have been working >>>>>>> on that fix this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly >>>>>>> recommend from my personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you >>>>>>> have nothing in particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a >>>>>>> bit. Good luck! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Magda. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick >>>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. If I >>>>>>> check for updates through the XQ "app" it says I'm up to date with >>>>>>> 2.7.8. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, if I manually download and install 2.7.9 from the website should I >>>>>>> just install it over the previous version? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And on a side note, should I be able to update through 2.7.8, or is it >>>>>>> common knowledge that it doesn't work that way since this is more of a >>>>>>> framework (for lack of better words) rather than a normal application. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Macbook Pro Mid 2012 15" >>>>>>> OSX 10.8.5 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> Christopher >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. 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(I sent you a minimal working example showing the bug some >>> time ago) >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> César >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El miércoles, 18 de mayo de 2016, Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia < >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <javascript:;>> escribió: >>>> FWIW, there are security vulnerabilities addressed in the versions of >>> libpng in 2.7.9, so you might want to update at least for the security >>> reasons. >>>> The only issues that I'm aware of as regressions are the issues with >>> IGLX (which isn't really going to be supported much longer) and a >>> regression in the support for tcp connections (which is off by default and >>> discouraged). >>>> --Jeremy >>>> >>>>> On May 17, 2016, at 14:39, Christopher Fick >>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>> Magda, thank you so much for your thoughts! I did notice that v2.7.9 >>> was just released earlier this month, and bugs were one thing I wondered >>> about. I'm pretty out of the loop on this stuff. >>>>> And, no I don't think I have anything to gain from an upgrade. >>> Nothing prompted me to look into an upgrade aside from curiosity and an >>> attempt to stay up to date. I just use XQ to run Inkscape, and so far I >>> haven't had any issues in the little I've used it. It also appears that >>> Inkscape is still standing at the same version (0.91) as when I initially >>> installed it with XQ So, I will take your advice. If it ain't broken... >>>>> Many Thanks! >>>>> Christopher >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Magda Tsintou < >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <javascript:;>> >>> wrote: >>>>> Note: Sorry forgot to reply to all so that everyone can keep track of >>> the conversation... >>>>> Hi Christopher, >>>>> >>>>> With your OSX you would certainly not need to update. We recently were >>> discussing some bugs in XQ 2.7.9 that have not been resolved while the >>> version 2.7.8 works perfectly fine and I am running El Capitan 10.11.5. XQ >>> 2.7.9 did not allow me to work with certain commands that needed forwarding >>> over ssh and given the limited people who have been working on that fix >>> this may cause problems for some time. I would strongly recommend from my >>> personal experience to stick with XQ 2.7.8 if you have nothing in >>> particular to gain from upgrading. I hope this helps a bit. Good luck! >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Magda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Christopher Fick < >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <javascript:;>> >>> wrote: >>>>> Hi I'm running XQ 2.7.8, and I see that 2.7.9 is now available. 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