>> 2) Even when up, the drawing/rendering speed makes all X11 apps unusably 
>> slow.
XQuartz from www.quartz.org <http://www.quartz.org/> was already extremely slow 
as compared to X11 on Linux or Windows.
On 02 Feb 2017 Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia wrote:  
> By oct 21 2016 I asked on <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> a question about slow dialogues with 
> OpenMotif and XQuartz (much slower than with Linux). Is this a known bug ? 
> Shall I post again ?
>> There is a known issue there, I believe with Yosemite and newer versions of 
>> macOS (maybe Mavericks+, maybe ElCap+, I forget exactly).  The issue is 
>> below us in CoreGraphics and won't really be fixed on Apple's side as doing 
>> so would fix this case but cause bad performance penalties for every single 
>> other case out there.  The real solution is to get XQuartz off of libXplugin 
>> and start using more modern macOS APIs (eg: finishing up libxcwm), but 
>> there's not really anyone actively working on that right now.
> If you're interested in working on the replacement, I can point you in the 
> right direction.  It's maybe 60% done ... all by a group of college seniors 
> at PSU.


When you speak of a MacPort version of X11, is it this one 
<https://www.x.org/wiki/ <https://www.x.org/wiki/>> ?
I am new at MacPorts and I am not sure I understand how to use it. 
        port info xorg-apps
If I install this port, does it gives a X11.app similar to Quartz.app ? Shall I 
activate it through a Terminal command ?
"Description: This package builds all of the x.org <http://x.org/> app 
packages.” but this does not say where they are installed and how to use them.

I think that Apple should support XQuartz and developers should complain about 
it.

Happy new year
Alain


> On 4 Jan 2020, at 10:21, Ken Preslan via X11-users <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Try the xorg-server-1.18 MacPort instead of the default xorg-server port.
> There was a speed regression from 1.18 to 1.20.  It's still not nearly
> as fast as XQuartz was before Yosemite, though.
> 
> At times, I wonder how hard it would be to change MacPorts' "vnc" port to
> start compiling the VNC/X11 server.  (Right now it only compiles the
> client.)  If that could be made to work, you could use a native MacOS
> VNC client to connect to it.  You'd have something that would run X11
> apps on the Mac which would be lighter weight than a VM and much faster
> than XQuartz.  You'd think that the work involved would be much smaller
> than the "XtoQ in libxcwm" fix to XQuartz.
> 
> I've never gotten around to trying it though.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 08:34:32AM +0000, Gunning, James (Energy, Clayton 
> North) via X11-users wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>     I'm running Xquartz from the Macports build on High Sierra.
>> Lots of things don't really work well
>> 1)  I have to run /opt/local/bin/Xquartz manually from a terminal, then 
>> start quartz-wm from the
>> xterm it fires up. The  Applications/Macports/X11.app just bounced endlessly.
>> 2) Even when up, the drawing/rendering speed makes all X11 apps unusably 
>> slow.
>> See https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/188 
>> <https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/188>
>> Since X11 is my workhorse, this makes the whole OSX+X11 platform experience 
>> rather
>> unworkable for me. I've taken to running linux via a VM on OSX - at least 
>> the X11 works well, but it's a heavyweight solution.
>> It seems to me that without a fix this disqualifies OSX as a platform for 
>> people who depend on the huge legacy set of X11 codes.
>> 
>> Are other people as plagued by these issues as well. Is there any hope of 
>> remediation for Xquartz
>> or substitute/workaround people know of?
>> 
>> Best wishes
>>         James.
>> 


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