I'm curious. What is the vendor app?

On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:20 PM, Lou Biskup <[email protected]> wrote:

> They didn't  "get" psh from anywhere - they just assumed (incorrectly) that 
> any cluster that their software would be run on would be managed by xCAT and 
> that, therefore, psh would be available for their application to use.  
> Unfortunately, we've had to keep CSM on life support for much longer than we 
> had planned and psh isn't available on our systems.  The equivalent function 
> is provided in CSM by dsh, which can be used independently of the rest of 
> CSM.  Unfortunately, the application isn't written to interface to dsh and 
> there is no interest in making it do so since IBM no longer supports CSM on 
> Linux.
> 
> In any event, the lead on pdsh paid off, and we've downloaded it and already 
> have it installed and operational on a couple of systems where it is needed.  
> The vendor application supports the use of both psh and pdsh, but not dsh.  
> Since we now have pdsh, the problem has been solved.  Thanks to all for their 
> responses to my query!
> 
> Lou
> 
> <graycol.gif>Lissa Valletta---04/22/2013 02:01:49 PM---I guess my question is 
> where did they get the psh before?     Why cannot they not be using the psh t
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> I guess my question is where did they get the psh before?     Why cannot they 
> not be using the psh they have always used.  There was no psh in csm?
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> <graycol.gif>Lou Biskup---04/22/2013 10:27:51 AM---Hi Lissa, Thanks for your 
> responses.  I was trying to use the psh that comes with the
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> Hi Lissa,
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> Thanks for your responses.  I was trying to use the psh that comes with the 
> latest release of xcat that I installed from sourceforge.  The system is Red 
> Hat EL5.  What I attempted to do is try to install the client RPM and 
> whatever dependencies came with it since it seemed like psh was sort of a 
> separable thing that wouldn't require a whole lot of infrastructure under it. 
>  However, once I saw directories containing files with RSA keys in them, I 
> started to get the idea that this wasn't the case.  The responses from the 
> mailing list have confirmed that this is not the case.
> 
> I'll ask the vendor how easy it would be for them to modify their application 
> to use alternatives to psh and/or if their usage is such that I can put 
> together a wrapper script that invokes dsh or pdsh under the covers.  Thanks 
> to all for the help.
> 
> Lou
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> <graycol.gif>Lissa Valletta---04/22/2013 08:25:59 AM---What psh were you 
> using?  If it was the AIX one, then you should still be able to use it.  It 
> is jus
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> What psh were you using?  If it was the AIX one, then you should still be 
> able to use it.  It is just on a different path from psh in xCAT.   You 
> probably changed you paths by installing the xCAT client.   The xCAT client 
> still requires an xCAT Management node to be running. 
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> <graycol.gif>John Simpson---04/19/2013 07:49:12 AM---Lou,  I am not sure if 
> you can accomplish this or not but there is a document
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> Date: 04/19/2013 07:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [xcat-user] Can psh be used without installing the entire xCAT 
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> Lou,
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> I am not sure if you can accomplish this or not but there is a document that 
> explains migration from CSM to xCAT and it might provide some help.
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> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/xcat/index.php?title=CSM_to_xCAT_Migration
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> John Simpson
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> <graycol.gif>Lou Biskup---04/18/2013 06:42:58 PM---We have an application 
> that uses psh, but have not had an opportunity to convert our clusters from C
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> From: Lou Biskup/Fishkill/IBM@IBMUS
> To: [email protected], 
> Date: 04/18/2013 06:42 PM
> Subject: [xcat-user] Can psh be used without installing the entire xCAT 
> infrasturcture
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> We have an application that uses psh, but have not had an opportunity to 
> convert our clusters from CSM to xCAT.  We've installed xCAT-client and its 
> pre-reqs on a node, but can't get psh to do anything after doing this.  
> Without a populated .xcat directory, psh comes back with "Connection failure: 
> No such file or directory".   If I copy the .xcat directory that I created on 
> a test system into root's home directory, the message changes to "Connection 
> failure: Connection refused".
> 
> Is it possible to use what would seem like a separable piece of xcat without 
> dragging the whole ball of wax with it (you can use dsh independently of 
> CSM)?  If so, is there a simple process somewhere that explains how to do 
> this?  Or do I need the whole thing in order to use any piece of it?
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> Thanks!
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