Enable the local DNS on xCAT MN does not hurt anything except the
cpu/memory to run makedns in your case, right?


Thanks
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From:   Josh Nielsen <[email protected]>
To:     xCAT Users Mailing list <[email protected]>,
            [email protected],
Date:   2014/04/01 00:00
Subject:        Re: [xcat-user] Makedns wiping out DNS records



>"By default, makedns sets up the named service and updates the DNS records
on the local system (management node). If the -e flag is specified, it will
also update the DNS records on any external DNS server that is listed in
the /etc/resolv.conf on the management node."

Interesting, so even if I use an external DNS server I can't "get rid
of/turn off" the DNS service on the MN? I suppose I could do a 'chkconfig
named off' but makedns starts the named daemon anyway when you run it (I
think). I want to make the external server the sole Master DNS server, and
every other server its slave (I have only two other slave DNS servers,
which are my Service Nodes).

I'm in the same boat as Christopher who noted "One kink I think we've
noticed there is that even with makedns -e xCAT seems to start up bind on
the local system which isn't what we want at all." I also would prefer the
local BIND/named daemon to not start at all, and rather make the external
DNS the sole master. However, as you indicated makedns by default (which
I'm assuming is a behavior that can't be changed [yet]?) sets up the local
named service when it is run. Can xCAT be modified to accommodate the
"external only master" scenario?

Regards,
Josh Nielsen


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Lissa Valletta <[email protected]> wrote:
  It is saying if your site has an external name server   and you want to
  use it , you need to add that external name server into
  the /etc/resolv.conf file.    You also have to add the correct
  nameservers in the site table before you run makedns.   This is the
  manual part.
  chdef -t site nameservers=50.1.2.254  for example.

  The makedns -e  will take the external nameservers that  you have listed
  in /etc/resolv.conf  and update their DNS records, assuming you have the
  authority to change that server.
  From man makedns

   By default, makedns sets up the named service and updates the DNS
  records on the local system
         (management node). If the -e flag is specified, it will also
  update the DNS records on any
         external DNS server that is listed in the /etc/resolv.conf on the
  management node. (Assuming the
         external DNS server can recognize the xCAT key as authentication.)


  Lissa K. Valletta
  8-3/B10
  Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
  (tie 293) 433-3102



  Inactive hide details for Josh Nielsen ---03/26/2014 03:15:37 PM---Sorry
  to revive this, but I have a question about external DJosh Nielsen
  ---03/26/2014 03:15:37 PM---Sorry to revive this, but I have a question
  about external DNS since I am thinking of trying it now.

  From: Josh Nielsen <[email protected]>
  To: xCAT Users Mailing list <[email protected]>,
  Date: 03/26/2014 03:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [xcat-user] Makedns wiping out DNS records



  Sorry to revive this, but I have a question about external DNS since I am
  thinking of trying it now.

  On the Cluster Name Resolution wiki page (
  
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/xcat/index.php?title=Cluster_Name_Resolution
  ) under 'Option #2: Use a DNS That is Outside of the Cluster' it says:
  "If you already have a DNS on your site network and you want to use that
  for your cluster node names too, you can point all of the nodes to it.
  You must ensure that your nodes have IP connectivity to the DNS, and you
  must manually configure your DNS with the node hostnames and IP
  addresses."

  What does it mean that "you must manually configure" the hostnames and IP
  addresses? Does 'makedns -e' not do that for you, just like it would if
  DNS were running locally on the MN itself by just parsing /etc/hosts and
  adding/pushing it to the (remote) DNS zone files for you?

  In my case I may even be migrating my existing DNS zone files and
  "/etc/named.conf" config onto a new VM and bring up DNS there and just
  add any new hosts. But I would be surprised if makedns -e doesn't add the
  hostnames and IPs for you. Can anyone who has used the external DNS
  option with xCAT speak to that?

  Thanks,
  Josh


  On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Christopher Samuel <
  [email protected]> wrote:
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        On 17/01/14 04:00, Josh Nielsen wrote:

        > If it just something with our installation or does makedns do
        this
        > foe other people as well?

        FWIW we do not run DNS on the management nodes at all, we have 4
        separate xCAT built clusters (3 HPC clusters and 1 for our GPFS/TSM
        infrastructure and our BG/Q service and front ends) and so to let
        them
        all populate DNS with a single, consistent view we have two
        external
        DNS servers that they all send updates to with "makedns -e".

        One kink I think we've noticed there is that even with makedns -e
        xCAT
        seems to start up bind on the local system which isn't what we want
        at
        all.

        Good luck!
        Chris
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