> F12 : ok... but kernel woes make me angry... Jerermy Fitzhardinge @ Citrix is PVOps kernel developer lead . Several options are available in meantime view this blog entry :-
http://bderzhavets.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/set-up-xen-3-4-3-dom0-via-xenified-2-6-31-12-kernel-on-top-ubuntu-9-10-server/ View also PVOPS Wiki by Pasi Karkkanen . It may even better than my short blog. Xen 4.0 & 3.4.3 official releases should be out with stable pvops kernel, not sure which branch of JF's Git Repo will be selected. It's a question of one month. --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Xavier Beaudouin <[email protected]> wrote: From: Xavier Beaudouin <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [xen-discuss] what's going on with the xVM project? To: "Boris Derzhavets" <[email protected]> Cc: "Kent Watsen" <[email protected]>, "Xen discuss" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 8:01 AM Hi ! Le 11 mars 2010 à 12:58, Boris Derzhavets a écrit : > > I was thinking to make some work on Xen under OpenSolaris because this was > > the >only reliable alternative to Linux and the inherent bazar of all Linux > > distributions... but > > since there is nothing comming out from Sun/Oracle, I decided to work under > > the hell > that is Linux and all the stuff around it. > > 1. I don't consider F12 and Ubuntu 9.10 Server as a hell for Xen 3.4.3, 4.0 It is. Try to do a dom0 with F12. You will have to - recompile a kernel with xen patches or - take xen 4.0.0-rcx and use Mickeal Young kernel... Why do I have to do that ? just because xen dom0 patches are not integrated into stock kernel sources.... But xen is not really new... It exists since around 2005... Now try to deploy thousands of servers with xen... F12 is good... because kickstart it nice and working. Yum it good stuff it work. Ubuntu... well... as debian based system auto installation of this... is moslty working, but there is always something that don't work. And I don't speak about all linuxish and brain damange : - ipv4 / ipv6 stack - bridge system that is .... hum strange - the concept of "patch of the day" and that things that turns around : why on hell reinvent the wheel (eg btrfs vs zfs). Now add Infiniband on Linux and Xen and will get lots of work... > 2. Oracle VM x86_64 i believe is based on outdated Xen implementation on RHEL > Xen 3.1.2, Kernel 3.0.3. Hard to say how long they will be happy with that > config (Linux) Yeah... RHEL is linux, working but yet still linux... > Solaris 11 with xVM 3.4.2 would mean relatively painless moving Oracle VM to > Solaris 11. Servers consolidation - Solaris 11 PV guests, each one running > 11g instance, utilizing Zvols as data storage for oracle's data files. The > cut of the edge technology been tuned for about 20 years. Oracle advertising > policy really seems strange. They might be aware of issues which are unknown > for people outside company. Yes sure, that's bad they don't want to speak about that. My company will be very happy to work with OpenSolaris because mostly I am sure that the software I do will continue to work in the next 3 years (yes short time...) not vanished in the next 3 months because of internal affairs in Linux. I was considering the following things : - OpenSolaris + xvm -> all is good but instabilities and the silence of opensolaris community make this to be... void. Also AI is pain in the ass to do... - NetBSD + Xen -> very good stuff... was *the* best choice... but... there is no IB support :( - FreeBSD + Xen -> no IB / no dom0 :/ - Linux... o debian : ib stack is not done... and not ported... we have OFED 1.4... no idea when this will added into mainstream -> dead end o Ubuntu : same a debian o RHEL : old Xen o F12 : ok... but kernel woes make me angry... /Xavier > --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Xavier Beaudouin <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Xavier Beaudouin <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [xen-discuss] what's going on with the xVM project? > To: "Kent Watsen" <[email protected]>, "Xen discuss" > <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 5:28 AM > > Hi, > > Le 11 mars 2010 à 01:24, Kent Watsen a écrit : > > > > > It's been a month now since the last posting to this list from a Sun/Oracle > > employee. It also seems that all commits to the source tree have ceased. > > Something appears to be happening to this project - does anyone know > > anything? > > > Seems there is nothing going out from Oracle, seems that also people in > Sun/Oracle has to not talk about that.... > > I was thinking to make some work on Xen under OpenSolaris because this was > the only reliable alternative to Linux and the inherent bazar of all Linux > distributions... but since there is nothing comming out from Sun/Oracle, I > decided to work under the hell that is Linux and all the stuff around it. > > So bad, Sun/Oracle has gold under their feets : > > - crossbow > - zfs > - xen > > but they don't promote it or even help startup that want to add a sticker > "powered by opensolaris"... > > /Xavier > > -- > Xavier Beaudouin - [email protected] > GPG Fingerprints : A6B2 D563 F93B A3AF C08A CBAC 6BC6 79EB DCC9 9867 > > _______________________________________________ > xen-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > -- Xavier Beaudouin - [email protected] GPG Fingerprints : A6B2 D563 F93B A3AF C08A CBAC 6BC6 79EB DCC9 9867
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