Le 12/03/2013 22:28, Roland Stigge a écrit :
On 03/12/2013 09:57 PM, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
Roland, at some point I lost track of what your intentions were. In the
following mail:
http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2012-July/000473.html

You seemed to agree to take care of the debian directory in xenomai
sources, asking me to simply warn you before a release.
Which I did before the 2.6.2 release in the following mail:

http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2012-December/027051.html

With a list of things which could be changed in the debian/rules file,
inviting you to do what I had understood you had agreed to do.
When you propose things, and implement them, fine. That's your decision.
When you propose things and I implement them, also fine. That's my
decision. But please don't expect me to just follow commands. That's not
my nature at all. Sorry.

http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2012-December/027052.html
You simply told me that you did not even try debian/rules, following
this, Leopold sent a post with a patch to fix the issue before the
release, but your reply could be interpreted as the fact that the patch
was actually broken, you did not send a fixed patch for the update, and
as a result 2.6.2 was released with a broken debian directory.
Please don't over-interpret things I actually didn't say at all. Every
patch is welcome, including things you propose, and from other
contributors. When I see conflicts in the code, I will state that clearly.

Which is why, for the 2.6.2.1 release, I did not warn you (since it had
proved useless anyway)
This is also your interpretation of things, and your own decision. Not
discussed with me.

Sorry when I missed some detail in the past. Please don't let this lead
to bad further communication in return, or blaming each other.

Thanks,

Roland


PS: I consider Debian itself the primary source of Debian packages and
will continue to do so. When people ask specific questions about those,
I'll answer accordingly.

PPS: If you consider your tone as helpful towards positive motivation of
contributors, please rethink.

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Hi,

I just want to say that I agree with Roland about the tone.

My colleague Jérôme and I ARE NOT kernel developers for sure.

Hilscher is proposing a Linux driver for the cifX boards. Not for free, I can't do anything about that fact. Then our customer gets the source code. The documentation is available on our web site.

As I like FLOSS and have years of fiddling here and there, I have noticed Xenomai existence and usage in projects such as Orocos and Linux CNC.
And I have noticed also the usage of CIF boards in those projects.

So I have proposed to my manager and Jérôme to work on a Xenomai driver for cifX boards and it was accepted.

Again, we are not kernel developers and our background is different.

Of course we could sell some boards but it is nothing compared to the time and energy we have already spent in this project.

Our customers are traditionally using RTX or VxWorks with our boards. I wanted to promote the use of Linux / Xenomai for some kind of applications.

We have received some support from Gilles and Jan and I thank them very much but the tone was never very friendly.

I understand that FLOSS projects need to sell training and development but the cost would have cancelled the project since we don't think we could generate the cash to cover the expenses. So the driver is done on our free time.

I am just wondering why in this list nobody cares of saying Hi or Hello before anything.
May be you are just too busy reading / writing kernel code lines.

I am a little bit disappointed. Sorry for bothering you.

Best Regards,
Cordialement,

Stéphane LOS
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