about freedesktop.org and bugzilla/trac....

It was Evgeny Egorochkin who said at the right time 05.06.2009 18:35 the following words:
freedesktop is a problem. We've got a bugzilla product at FDO, but we don't really have any control over it. It appears we can't import or export anything.

Also FDO is very well known for taking a lot of time to process even trivial requests(such as adding a project). You can forget about infrastructure requests.

So if we use FDO, we're stuck with a small set of software some of which is out of sync with reality(CVS) and to which we don't have a full access(such as for import/export).

On the other hand we have semanticdesktop.org, sf.net and xesam.org
we established oscaf.sf.net in februaray to let anyone willing to work on ontologies join there.

I find bugzilla too complex for the task at hand and I like the tight integration of SVN + WIKI + Tickets in TRAC.

so:
freedesktop.org :
* endlessly complex loopholes to get an account (sending a gpg key to a gpg server, creating an ssh key, creating a user account for bugtracker to create a bug to .... ???)
* bugzilla
* git

sf.net:
* everyone has an account, if not it takes 1 minute to make one, only complexity is remembering your name and password
* trac
* svn

personally, I am much more in favor of sf.net because its the platform i also used for aperture and other projects I am member of. I also like TRAC and SVN as we use it a lot. Also we basically know how ontology management with SVN+TRAC works based on the experience in dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org

But I thought since all the others are freedesktop.org and git fans, we must use that. If the question is up to discussion, I much more favor sourceforge+trac+svn. we can reuse the oscaf.sf.net project there or make a new one if you don't like the name, then suggest a better one and sign us up. Setting this up is piss-easy, as you all probably know from past sf.net experience. performance may suck from time to time, but so be it, they do a good job otherwise.

I would not "vote" about this, I would rather like to have an agreement where everyone understands the problems and personal background and preferences of all parties involved, and then come to a conclusion that fits our small group best.

best
Leo


FDO is nice as an idea, but the implementation is far from it.

curious to learn the itnerna there,

best
Leo




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