Francis, this also true for me:

> Yes
> The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscure 
> reasons (internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records 
> exists for the target domains'.

I'm glad there *is* someone with the *same* problem as me.

It means the problem is reproducible - always good when you need to track
down a weird problem. 

Rob: -)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of CLEMENT Francis
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:34 PM
To: 'xmail@xmailserver.org'
Subject: [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get delivered




> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Rob Arends [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyé : jeudi 1 septembre 2005 01:53
> À : xmail@xmailserver.org
> Objet : [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get 
> delivered
> 
> 
> 
> Francis,=20
> 
> This is the exact error I have had before.  I have the same setup - 
> your
> *whole* description below is *exactly* what I have.  I have had this = 
> problem while on 1.15 & 1.17 also.  However at the time though, I did 
> not know = why my emails were failing.

I don't remember exactly if we encourated the problem with 1.17 (seams not
in my mind) (but can be explained because we didn't had many traffic
directed to hotmail at 1.17 time)


> The only difference is that I have not had an issue with hotmail, = 
> usually it is with some other domains.  Perhaps my users don't send to 
> hotmail as = much.
> I have not had the time to debug it to an absolute end and offer 
> proof, = and so the previous thread died.
> 
> I have tracked it down to the fact that every domain that I have had 
> problems with has had an A record for the domain & that A record = 
> resolves to a different IP than that of the MX record.  This in itself 
> is

True

> not a DNS
> problem (normal dns operation).  But I have found that clearing 
> xmail's = dns cache & restarting xmail resolves the problem for a 
> while.  IIRC just restarting xmail might be enough.

Yes
The problem is EXACTLY 'XMAIL comes back to the A record for obscur reasons
(internal or due to bad dns responses ?) even if MX records exists for the
target domains'.

> 
> I actually used the SmartDNSHost only *after* I have troubles with MX 
> & = A records, but while the problem *seems* to have reduced, it has 
> not gone.

> 
> It does seem to be a logic issue in xmail's mx resolving code, but I = 
> have no proof.

In my current configuration, xmail 1.21 forwarding ALL traffic to a Symantec
SMTP AV Gateway USING the SAME Microsoft DNS SERVERS, then ALL TRAFFIC IS OK
(except usual errors, timeouts, ...) In another 'old' configuration, we used
a Microsoft (yes!) Iis SMTP server using the same dns sservers and all was
ok too !!


> I expect that an Ethereal trace before and after is the only thing 
> that = can be done to prove it.
> 

I have to get time to get them ...

> Hopefully this info will help someone that has the time & the symptoms 
> = to get to the bottom of it.
> 
> Rob :)
> 


Francis
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