My completely unprofessional opinion is that Jason brings up a really good point here. Accidentally zapping Xorg can not only be extremely frustrating, but it could be extremely confusing for a new user. This being said, I also agree that any change that might be zapping unreliable or even unduly difficult is unacceptable.However, I do believe there is a better solution than what we have presently. Ctrl, Alt, and Backspace are usually three of the largest keys on most keyboards and I can personally attest to the ease of triggering on some keyboards (try typing on a laptop balanced on your knee).
I think that requiring two presses of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in close succession would be perfect, so long as a tightly looping Xorg would still register the event. Otherwise, perhaps adding Shift to the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination would be a reasonable course of action so long as it doesn't preclude any keyboards. If this too is not possible, perhaps making use of the Pause/Break key in replacement of the Backspace key would be workable. Just my 2 cents. Cheers, - Ben Jason Spiro wrote: > dan <dan <at> entropy.homelinux.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:33:49 +0530, CyberOrg <cyberorg <at> >> opensuse.org> wrote: >> >> >>> Since openSUSE 11.0 users have to hit ctrl+alt+backspace twice quickly >>> to kill X. >>> >> The problem with this is that when I want to kill X, it's usually because >> it's crashed, and I have enough trouble getting it to respond to *any* >> keypresses. Considering the CPU is 100% busy with X, is it going to >> register my multiple 'quick' Ctrl-Alt-Backspace keypresses? >> > > I don't know. IMO a few people should each independently run an experiment to > out how often zap_warning_xserver.diff prevents zapping when zapping would > otherwise have been possible. Then they should report back to us. But what's > the proper way to simulate an average situation that would make users want to > zap? And who volunteers to be one of the experimenters? > > >> Seriously, we need a way to kill X, and no matter what way that is, some >> user will manage to 'accidentally' trigger it ( a million-monkeys-type >> situation ). We've currently got a way to kill X, and I can't see how much >> more obscure and difficult we can make it without requiring > 2 hands. I >> don't see a case for changing things. >> > > The more difficult we make zapping, the smaller the number of people who'll > accidentally zap. The smaller the number of people who accidentally zap, the > better. > > _______________________________________________ > xorg mailing list > xorg@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > > _______________________________________________ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg