Constructive:
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keep the promises of the release notes
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be part of the Ubuntu community or leave the Ubuntu software base -
be clear
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want to go after the XP base - know the base and their desires and
needs, before assuming things. Have hard facts.
I'd appreciate if members here do not get defensive when bugs (in the
docs or the kernel versions) are communicated. And having Xubuntu
12.04.4 LTS with kernel version 3.2.0 is by all standards a bug. Proof:
there is no information in the docs about leaving the Ubuntu 12.04.4
software base with an outdated kernel version.
Thanks!
FMF
On 15.02.2014 18:02, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
Richard, while your analysis and experiences might be interesting for
some, please discuss it further in the users mailing list, where
discussion on non-development issues are welcome.
Michael, please reconsider your attitude. If you can't bring anything
to the discussion except snarky and/or unconstructive comments, please
do not post to this list.
Cheers,
Pasi
On 15/02/14 18:34, Michael Fischer wrote:
I had no success to find any hard market numbers on the XP->Xubuntu
migration on non-PAE platforms so far. It seems clear, however, that
the Xubuntu image resulting from the 12.04.4 cheat is most likely: A
Very Good Computing Enviroment for Written-off Hardware. There is a
market for that. An interesting one? I doubt.
FMF
On 15.02.2014 17:05, Richard Elkins wrote:
USA Notes .....
People who survey and keep track of statistics are reporting that
home XP users have been and still are taking the easy technological
route of upgrading to 7, either legally or illegally. I doubt if
many home Windows users are thinking about GNU/Linux at all.
Resistance to change and expense is at play.
Hardly anyone realizes that their Android phones are running a Linux
kernel. This is similar to the fact that MacOS and iOS users do not
realize that their machines are running an offshoot of BSD Unix.
People just look at the eye candy and believe that this is the "system".
Commercial use is a different story. Many businesses are buying new
or converting to Linux. Faster, more secure, and not more expensive
than Windows. IBM and Redhat have benefited hugely from this
continuing trend. The commercial desktops, however, are upgraded
from XP to 7 "enterprise edition". Corporate America is locked into
Microsoft Office and Exchange for the foreseeable future.
Ask anyone on the street in America "what is Linux" and you'll
usually get a blank look. I often have trouble in social situations
explaining what I do.
For Linux and BSD Unix users and fans, there is still a tall
mountain to climb, especially in communications.
Richard the pessimist (sometimes)
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