Martin Bochnig wrote:
> "HOWEVER, I'm not as arrogant, as it may look from time to time. I only had
> some problems with my finances and health (including my right eye). Mostly
> because I didn't do anything against those things. Hence because of my
> OpenSolaris "hobby", because it can eat a lot of time and resources, as you
> know. That's the reason why I had to stop for a few months. Now that I'm
> going to marry I have even less time, and need much more money at the same
> time. Nevertheless, I just want that somebody out there can actually use Xorg
> on legacy SPARC hardware also on OpenSolaris (and maybe Solaris10 u_next),
> not only on *BSD and LinUX. It would be a pity if this never gets into a
> usable state, into places where "normal" users find it.
> That's why I'm here.
>
> I don't want to be in that "leaders" list, until I have merged in the legacy
> SPARC gate. Because you and your team are working every every day on the
> fox-gate and therefore have a much bigger right to be in that list of
> leaders. My question was really only about write access to the gate."
>
> But the fact that nobody said "hello", also after my merges, that's PASSIVE
> FLAMING.
I don't know anyone who sends "Hello, how are you?" messages in response to
commit notices, nor anyone else who expects them.
I almost never respond to commit messages, other than when they cause build
errors or other effects that the committer needs to deal with - and there are
few other people on the fox-notify list to notice them. (Only 11 subscribers
currently are listed in mailman, and I don't know who about half of them are.
I don't know how many people check out the gate from mercurial and read the
log messages, but I would guess it's even fewer - probably just yourself,
myself, and Moinak. I'm the one pushing all the commits from the Nevada gate
out to the FOX gate - most of the other developers aren't working with the
FOX gate at all.)
> And here is why your so called "Community" is not constitution compliant:
> Because you are basicly the only "leader" who really shows up on the lists
> and discusses with users. The others (no names) are basicly just throwing
> their stuff over the gate-fence.
Where in the Constitution does it require a certain level of e-mails from each
leader?
> Also: when somebody returns who has a moral right to go into whatever list,
> you should base your decisions on the code that this person pushes into your
> gate, rather than on how your mood may be.
At what point was a decision made that you feel we made incorrectly? As you
quoted, you said you didn't want to be in the leaders list at that time, and
since that time have not asked to be added. We don't automatically promote
people to leaders when they do a certain number of commits, we consider requests
from people who ask to be leaders when they make them. I have not seen any
request from you to be a leader, so have never made a decision on whether or
not to re-add you to the list. (There is no "moral right" to leader status,
and no amount of code guarantees you get it - being able to work with the other
leaders is just as vital a requirement for leader status as being able to help
the project accomplish it's objectives.)
> As long as you don't apologize for trying to harm my name,
I have not tried to harm your name and don't know what you want me to apologize
for.
> I won't sign that tricky contributor's agreement. And then you need to remove
everything from your gate (while I can set up a parallel gate).
If that is what you wish, I can remove you from the commit access list and
remove all your commits from the gate. I will not be happy about it, but
at least we will be clear on your status at that point.
That you have commit access before signing the contributor's agreement was
a mistake on my part - I assumed you had signed before the FOX project was
setup, and did not notice you had not until recently. I apologize for this
mistake, and because it was my error, have allowed you to keep commit access
while you were working on submitting the agreement.
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-Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at sun.com
Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering