-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:58:14 -0700 > Von: Alan Coopersmith <Alan.Coopersmith at Sun.COM> > An: Martin Bochnig <mb1x at gmx.com> > CC: xwin-discuss at opensolaris.org > Betreff: Re: [xwin-discuss] Notes, slides, & recordings from X.Org Developers > Summit
> Martin Bochnig wrote: > > "HOWEVER, I'm not as arrogant, as it may look from time to time. I only > had some problems with my finances and health (including my right eye). > Mostly because I didn't do anything against those things. Hence because of my > OpenSolaris "hobby", because it can eat a lot of time and resources, as you > know. That's the reason why I had to stop for a few months. Now that I'm > going to marry I have even less time, and need much more money at the same > time. Nevertheless, I just want that somebody out there can actually use > Xorg on legacy SPARC hardware also on OpenSolaris (and maybe Solaris10 > u_next), not only on *BSD and LinUX. It would be a pity if this never gets > into a > usable state, into places where "normal" users find it. > > That's why I'm here. > > > > I don't want to be in that "leaders" list, until I have merged in the > legacy SPARC gate. Because you and your team are working every every day on > the fox-gate and therefore have a much bigger right to be in that list of > leaders. My question was really only about write access to the gate." > > > > But the fact that nobody said "hello", also after my merges, that's > PASSIVE FLAMING. > > I don't know anyone who sends "Hello, how are you?" messages in response > to > commit notices, nor anyone else who expects them. > > I almost never respond to commit messages, other than when they cause > build > errors or other effects that the committer needs to deal with - and there > are > few other people on the fox-notify list to notice them. (Only 11 > subscribers > currently are listed in mailman, and I don't know who about half of them > are. > I don't know how many people check out the gate from mercurial and read > the > log messages, but I would guess it's even fewer - probably just yourself, > myself, and Moinak. I'm the one pushing all the commits from the Nevada > gate > out to the FOX gate - most of the other developers aren't working with the > FOX gate at all.) > > > And here is why your so called "Community" is not constitution > compliant: Because you are basicly the only "leader" who really shows up on > the > lists and discusses with users. The others (no names) are basicly just > throwing > their stuff over the gate-fence. > > Where in the Constitution does it require a certain level of e-mails from > each > leader? > > > Also: when somebody returns who has a moral right to go into whatever > list, you should base your decisions on the code that this person pushes into > your gate, rather than on how your mood may be. > > At what point was a decision made that you feel we made incorrectly? As > you > quoted, you said you didn't want to be in the leaders list at that time, > and > since that time have not asked to be added. We don't automatically > promote > people to leaders when they do a certain number of commits, we consider > requests > from people who ask to be leaders when they make them. I have not seen > any > request from you to be a leader, so have never made a decision on whether > or > not to re-add you to the list. (There is no "moral right" to leader > status, > and no amount of code guarantees you get it - being able to work with the > other > leaders is just as vital a requirement for leader status as being able to > help > the project accomplish it's objectives.) > > > As long as you don't apologize for trying to harm my name, > > I have not tried to harm your name and don't know what you want me to > apologize for. > > > I won't sign that tricky contributor's agreement. And then you need to > remove > everything from your gate (while I can set up a parallel gate). > > If that is what you wish, I can remove you from the commit access list and > remove all your commits from the gate. I will not be happy about it, but > at least we will be clear on your status at that point. The choice is exclusively on your side: If you continue not to recognize my fox-project status, then I will set up fox-gate#2. And Natamar will remain the only OpenSolaris based distro to ship with a version of Xorg, which will actually be usable on most legacy SPARC systems. Nobody will ask for SPARC-Indiana any longer (after I release the DVD.iso), because Indiana is in fact the hard work of BeleniX++_plus_SchilliX (which was never properly acknoledged by the Murderockl crew) plus rather useless stuff like IPS. On x86/x64 BeleniX always used - and still uses - to be (at least) one move ahead of Indiana. The same is already now true for Natamar on SPARC. And Natamar will not remain SPARC-only, BTW. It's your choice. You were talking about my ego here, what about yours? I should never have believed in you Sun folks. It's much like on a bazar. > > That you have commit access before signing the contributor's agreement was > a mistake on my part - I assumed you had signed before the FOX project was > setup, and did not notice you had not until recently. I apologize for > this > mistake, and because it was my error, have allowed you to keep commit > access > while you were working on submitting the agreement. > > -- > -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at sun.com > Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
