> Edward O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I think what Martin is trying to make clear here Alan, is that there
> > is, too much corporate mumbo jumbo here. Its rather synthetic not to
> > have a social aspect to a community. People should be *allowed* to be
> > off topic as well sometimes, in the IRC people can constantly flamed
> > if they don't ask a question in the right way and such or are off
> > topic. This is not a good environment for the workplace and open
> > source projects *are* just like a workplace.
>
> I'm not sure what corporate mumbo jumbo you're referring too, and don't
> plan to stop occasional socializing, but also can't force it to happen
> when it isn't coming organically. If you look at the message you
> replied to, my comment was to stop the name calling ("Murderock") and
This was an unintended typo.
You know about the problem with my right eye, don't you? I apologize for this
error.
> attacking other projects ("rather useless stuff like the IPS") - those
I just tell the truth about it.
I would also do it again. They did have their chance but never showed interest
in a true discussion about conary.
Then I switched off all boxes and didn't release it (but I didn't delete it).
> damage the social spirit you're suggesting we promote. (See the oft
> repeated talk about "Poisonous People" in open source projects that's
> been given at many venues and has a couple recordings available online.)
You can call me "Poisonous" ?? Are you flaming me once again?
You misinterpret something. My behaviour was the re---action, not an initiative.
> Personally, I tend to have more off-topic/social conversations in IRC
> than e-mail lists, but that's just my personal style, not something I'm
> going to push on others.
>
> > When people such as myself file large number of bug reports and
> > testing on each release of snv for the 2008.11 distro release making
> > it as stable and usable as say Ubuntu. I would at least like to be in
> > the release notes..
> > I don't see Moinak Ghosh in the last release notes even though,
> > without him you would not even have a LiveCD and he was even working
> > for Sun at the time !
>
> The contents of the release notes and how to recognize contributors to the
> Indiana distro as a whole are good points to bring up on indiana-discuss
> or in the upcoming town hall - no one here has control over them.
"No one has control over them"? This sounds like a rudderless project. Which it
is not, rather to much Top2bottom stearing is involved.
The right people certainly do have the control over it.
What you write is an affront against all non-dayjob contributors. Fool them yet
another time.
I'm done. To me it is of no interest anymore, if Sun wants to improve their
"product".
They can use whatever package management system they like. Users, however, will
decide by themselves which systems offers the more features, more RAS and
better upgrade paths: Conary will clearly win. If you don't want it, then don't
use it.
I no longer try to persuade anybody to adopt anything.
I just shared my old conary workspace with a few friends. We are preparing a
pkgadd package for release on this Sunday.
Do what you want. But don't call me " Poisonous", while you are always trying
to distract from the actual arguments.
You can only blame, rather than ever go back a centimeter. Then stay on your
territorries, but I no longer try to enter them. Other have quit already
(names?).
> --
> -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith at sun.com
> Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
