Martin Bochnig wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> 
>> Andrew Pattison wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any plans for Sun to provide Xorg drivers for the ATI Rago
>>> Pro Turbo (PGX24) chip at some point in the future?
>>
>> Right now, the SPARC graphics group plans to provide Xorg drivers
>> for XVR-100, XVR-300, and XVR-2500.
>>
>> The X group plans to provide the wsfb driver which can work with
>> m64 devices, but unaccelerated and with limited features.
>>
>> Drivers beyond that will be determined by customer demand, so if
>> you have need for Xorg drivers for other hardware, make sure to
>> feed that back through the sales & support channels so that the
>> engineering team can adequately gauge demand.
> 
> 
> Money ...
> Future sales, demand.
> (previous customers do not count?)

Previous customers would be the people I mentioned above going through support
channels.

> SUNW is not interested in making Xorg on sparc more usable (hw
> compatibility).

If there's anything you should have learned from the discussions here it
should be that Sun Microsystems, Inc. is not a monolithic borg-like entity
with everyone thinking the same thing or having the same priorities.

The Solaris group at Sun, including the X server group, wants Xorg to become
the main X server on all Solaris platforms, and to be the most usable X server
on all those platforms.   I can't speak for what the SPARC graphics group wants
though.

> A proposal on xwin-discuss to potentially set up a
> project/forum/community dedicated to Xorg at sparc at opensolaris.org
> remained unreflected.

If you want to propose an official opensolaris project or community, you
need to do that on opensolaris-discuss, following the procedures listed at
        http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects/
The people who manage opensolaris projects can't monitor every single mailing
list discussion in every single opensolaris list.

> Probaly true: "Those who didn't respond" are not only very brilliant,
> but also older, already(!) much more skilled and experienced, than a few
> "newcomer amateurs" like myself (if that is what you think).

Those who didn't respond may just have had nothing to say - they didn't
disagree with you and have enough mail already without responding with
"Yes you are absolutely right" to every e-mail they agree with or "I
don't care" or "I don't have time to discuss this right now."

> OPEN-solaris does not depend on "customer demand".

It does, it's just the customers are the members of the community, not
people paying for a product.


-- 
        -Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith at sun.com
         Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering

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