My dear comrades,

I would apprciate if comrades can get the speech of the ANC President when
he opened the Alliance Summit in Esselen Park recently. The alliance summit
declaration should be making comrades to relax about whether COSATU and SACP
can influence the ANC in the current conjucture.

The "continuity and change" language after the summit means a lot about the
influence of alliance partners.

Comradely,

Cedric Gina.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:25 PM, sibusiso Mchunu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i think, the decisions of the Alliance are not automatic the decisions of
> the ANC, but what we should appreciate is the space for engagement unlike
> before whereby SACP and COSATU views were not welcome.
>
> just like in the POA (manifesto) alliance meet but the final output is
> under the ANC, only cdes who contributed (Alliance) will be able to see and
> say the manifesto is ours, but under the ANC, and remember that ANC is an
> independent organization.
>  so after the Alliance meeting, the decisions will be tabled at the ANC
> meeting and should they win, it will be an ANC decision. just like the
> recall of the former president, COSATU and SACP made the call long before
> the ANC but finally the ANC acted not because SACP/COSATU said so but the
> views were tabled at the ANC-NEC and the decision was made and implemented.
>
> so Cde dont worry the ANC president is still correct and remember he is not
> a spokesperson of the Alliance.
>
> Amandla
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Cdes
>>
>> I may run a risk of committing an error of a fact, either because I may
>> have misheard the president or rather did not understand him in entirety.A
>> matter relating to a direction taken by the ANC as observed by the outside
>> world was raised, that the ANC was seen as leaning towards the left with
>> both the SACP and COSATU having greater influence on policy direction of
>> the ANC.
>>
>> In response the President said that the two alliance partners were not and
>> will not influence the policies of the ANC, to do not vote on such
>> matters, they are just observers. What do we make out of this statement
>> comrades? it is a very loaded statements, I say this because under TM's
>> regime the main complaint from the alliance partners was that of being
>> left out of decision making process and lack of consultation.
>>
>> I know that the relations have been improved in the alliance post
>> polokwane, but am very disturbed if consultation and other meetings of the
>> alliance will yield no concrete results for other partners. What would be
>> the value of consultation if recommendations are not being taken? I
>> further do understand that the ANC has a choice to accept or reject the
>> recommendation of other alliance partners, but is more problematic if such
>> remains a casting stone that condemns them to becoming weaker arms in an
>> alliance.
>>
>> Educate me comrades...
>>
>> Tshego George
>>
>>
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