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Ngiyabonga Cde Domza ngokudeal ngale chap umasala sizakuphumula manje. Cde Gina can you be so kind and make the speech availaible to the forum if you have it electronically. Sharp > My dear comrades, > > I would apprciate if comrades can get the speech of the ANC President when > he opened the Alliance Summit in Esselen Park recently. The alliance > summit > declaration should be making comrades to relax about whether COSATU and > SACP > can influence the ANC in the current conjucture. > > The "continuity and change" language after the summit means a lot about > the > influence of alliance partners. > > Comradely, > > Cedric Gina. > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:25 PM, sibusiso Mchunu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> i think, the decisions of the Alliance are not automatic the decisions >> of >> the ANC, but what we should appreciate is the space for engagement >> unlike >> before whereby SACP and COSATU views were not welcome. >> >> just like in the POA (manifesto) alliance meet but the final output is >> under the ANC, only cdes who contributed (Alliance) will be able to see >> and >> say the manifesto is ours, but under the ANC, and remember that ANC is >> an >> independent organization. >> so after the Alliance meeting, the decisions will be tabled at the ANC >> meeting and should they win, it will be an ANC decision. just like the >> recall of the former president, COSATU and SACP made the call long >> before >> the ANC but finally the ANC acted not because SACP/COSATU said so but >> the >> views were tabled at the ANC-NEC and the decision was made and >> implemented. >> >> so Cde dont worry the ANC president is still correct and remember he is >> not >> a spokesperson of the Alliance. >> >> Amandla >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Cdes >>> >>> I may run a risk of committing an error of a fact, either because I may >>> have misheard the president or rather did not understand him in >>> entirety.A >>> matter relating to a direction taken by the ANC as observed by the >>> outside >>> world was raised, that the ANC was seen as leaning towards the left >>> with >>> both the SACP and COSATU having greater influence on policy direction >>> of >>> the ANC. >>> >>> In response the President said that the two alliance partners were not >>> and >>> will not influence the policies of the ANC, to do not vote on such >>> matters, they are just observers. What do we make out of this statement >>> comrades? it is a very loaded statements, I say this because under TM's >>> regime the main complaint from the alliance partners was that of being >>> left out of decision making process and lack of consultation. >>> >>> I know that the relations have been improved in the alliance post >>> polokwane, but am very disturbed if consultation and other meetings of >>> the >>> alliance will yield no concrete results for other partners. What would >>> be >>> the value of consultation if recommendations are not being taken? I >>> further do understand that the ANC has a choice to accept or reject the >>> recommendation of other alliance partners, but is more problematic if >>> such >>> remains a casting stone that condemns them to becoming weaker arms in >>> an >>> alliance. >>> >>> Educate me comrades... >>> >>> Tshego George >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm >>> >>> >> >>> > > > > ------------------------------------------- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------ For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
