Thanks President for your response will do likewise when the office
beares visit the plant.
 
COMRADELY.

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sabelo gina
Sent: 19 March 2009 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Political Discussions Deteriorating
Level


Comrade Ronnie,
 
I do not know why do you escalate the matter of communicating to your
leadership of Numsa to a forum of yclsa. It creates an impression that
leadership of NUMSA is inaccessible. For the record, Numsa office
bearors have visited VWSA more than 4 times since the year started.
 
As for the issues that you are raising, we had a succesful jobs security
conference where we came out with good resolutions, we just need to
popularise the outcomes and start engaging with stateholders. I am sure
issues that are being raised  by yourself could have been raised with a
comrade that attended on behalf of VWSA.
 
Thank you my leader.
 
Regards,
 
Cedric Gina.


On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Cakwebe, Ronnie <[email protected]>
wrote:







        Comrades in several meetings and discussions with comrades I
always raise an issue about this request for bail-out by motor and auto
employers.There has been several meetings with gorvt,labour and business
and civil society at the level of Nedlac.There is also a presidential
task team that has been formed.My argument in this is that as much as
the industry is being affected by this global economic meltdown nothing
is being said about how has this hit the pocket or the take home pay of
a metalworker.Comrades it is clear there is no bail-out for
metalworkers.After I have raised this issue with comrades Cde Irvin Jim
also raised it in the Mbuyselo Ngwenda Memorial Lecture in P.E.So
<http://p.e.so/>  comrades I would like to make this appeal to the
leadership of Numsa to prioritise this issue as it affects our members
and to them the nearest person to vent their anger to is the shop
steward.
        
        COMRAEDLY.
        

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        To: [email protected]
        Cc: [email protected]
        Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Political Discussions
Deteriorating Level
        
        
        Thank you comrade president, you have cleared my mind and that
is what i call awareness of the masses so that we do not get confused
and be dragged into legal matters that need the ruling of the court of
law
        
        Ndiyabulela Nkokheli
        
        Never interrupt your enemy when s/he is making a mistake
        
        
        
                    sabelo gina
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        Comrade Zama and others,
        
        We all saw in the news that the NPA  was to meet today and
discuss the matter, some of us smell the victory.
        
        The issue of Mama Winnie, the ANC seeked an advice from their
lawyers who advised that the constitution is silent on people who
received suspended sentences and on that basis adviced the ANC to
include the name of Mama Winnie. This is an issue of law, a court can
decide if the ANC lawyers were correct or not, not a political party.
All parties in South Africa say that they respect the rule of law, they
must wait for the electoral court's decision, if they decide to raise
the complaint with the electoral court.
        
        I hope I have helped you my fellow metalworker, Cde Zama.
        
        Regards,
        
        Cedric Gina.
        
        On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, <[email protected]>
wrote:
        
         Revolutionary greetings
        
         Comrades could someone confirm the statement had over the radio
this
         morning about the NPA withdrawing charges against the ANC
President Cde.
         Jacob Zuma
        
         Comrades I had that the IEC has proven some people otherwise
that Mama
         Winnie Madikizela-Mandela is eligible to be nominated into
parliament.
         Could some one clarify to me as how this happened, I know she
was not
         convicted rather given a suspended sentence as the verdict.
        
        
         My confusion is around the eligibility. I would like to know
when someone
         eligible to be in parliament, is it five years after served
your sentence
         or is it five years from the day you were sentenced and would
like to
         know
         the length of sentences for being found eligible to be part in
         parliament.
        
        
         Comrades I am a loyal ANC-led structures member and would like
to be able
         to answer these questions when asked as we sometimes come
across legal
         gurus who tend to confuse us. so please help
        
        
        
        
        
        
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