Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Green Paper

Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:49:13 -0800

Vusi Frans Ntuli,

What you are doing is as close to spamming as makes no difference.

Spamming is banned from this forum.

If you do anything like this again you are gone.

VC


vusi frans ntuli wrote:
You Lucas , you must be deployed by helen Zille to dicourage uor comrades in attempt to easy the burden to the poor, we did fight  for the poor to liberate the from the oppressors, and we did that successfully, we will continue to do that in fighting for social change, you dont talk like a comrade, we dont need people like you in this forum, peolpe will remain poor for as long resource are still in the hands of a white capital, come 2012 you will see that indeed SA is transforming socially

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Lucas du Plessis <[email protected]> wrote:
"The Upliftment of the Poor" will never happen it is just a political catch
phrase used by politicians to get the public to vote for them.

Give me an example of one country in the world were there is no poor people
and were the government is actually uplifting poor people.

Every man/woman in South Africa is responsible for his/her own standard of
living and that is a cold hard fact.

Thank you,

Lucas
[email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Beddowes
Sent: 18 January 2010 11:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Green Paper

"Cosatu and the leftists scored a major victory after Minister in the
Presidency Trevor Manuel toned down the green paper on the contentious
National Planning Commission.
  
"The revised green paper strips the planning commission of its executive
functions, which Cosatu strongly objected to and claimed would effectively
turn Manuel into a prime minister."

These opening words by Caiphus Kgosana in the 'Sunday Independent' tell us a
lot. How can 'leftists' undermine the role of the planning commission and
yet still be working in the interests of the working class?

The elation of Helen Zille over the revision of the Green Paper has
demonstrated clearly tha COSATU (and not for the first time) is objectively
working in unison with monopoly capital which hates all planning unless from
within its own structures. This is a step backwards fom the implementation
of Polokwane decisions and will inevitably delay the uplifting of the living
standards of the poorest of the poor.




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