lucas is a scum I agree entirely; what kind of a comrades that talks such
nonsense, counter - revolutionary indeed!!!

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:52 PM, vusi frans ntuli <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm not being paid to be in this forum, you wont dectate me, I'm gone, i
> stay, it's just the same atleast i be safe to brainwashed by scambags like
> lucas
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Dominic Tweedie <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Vusi Frans Ntuli,
>>
>> What you are doing is as close to spamming as makes no difference.
>>
>> Spamming is banned from this forum.
>>
>> If you do anything like this again you are gone.
>>
>> VC
>>
>>
>> vusi frans ntuli wrote:
>>
>>  You Lucas , you must be deployed by helen Zille to dicourage uor
>> comrades in attempt to easy the burden to the poor, we did fight  for the
>> poor to liberate the from the oppressors, and we did that successfully, we
>> will continue to do that in fighting for social change, you dont talk like
>> a comrade, we dont need people like you in this forum, peolpe will remain
>> poor for as long resource are still in the hands of a white capital, come
>> 2012 you will see that indeed SA is transforming socially
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Lucas du Plessis <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> "The Upliftment of the Poor" will never happen it is just a political
>>> catch
>>> phrase used by politicians to get the public to vote for them.
>>>
>>> Give me an example of one country in the world were there is no poor
>>> people
>>> and were the government is actually uplifting poor people.
>>>
>>> Every man/woman in South Africa is responsible for his/her own standard
>>> of
>>> living and that is a cold hard fact.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Lucas
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Beddowes
>>> Sent: 18 January 2010 11:40 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Green Paper
>>>
>>> "Cosatu and the leftists scored a major victory after Minister in the
>>> Presidency Trevor Manuel toned down the green paper on the contentious
>>> National Planning Commission.
>>>
>>> "The revised green paper strips the planning commission of its executive
>>> functions, which Cosatu strongly objected to and claimed would
>>> effectively
>>> turn Manuel into a prime minister."
>>>
>>> These opening words by Caiphus Kgosana in the 'Sunday Independent' tell
>>> us a
>>> lot. How can 'leftists' undermine the role of the planning commission and
>>> yet still be working in the interests of the working class?
>>>
>>> The elation of Helen Zille over the revision of the Green Paper has
>>> demonstrated clearly tha COSATU (and not for the first time) is
>>> objectively
>>> working in unison with monopoly capital which hates all planning unless
>>> from
>>> within its own structures. This is a step backwards fom the
>>> implementation
>>> of Polokwane decisions and will inevitably delay the uplifting of the
>>> living
>>> standards of the poorest of the poor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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