Zondi,
Your diatribe is not worth engaging because it is nothing else but just diatribe. What you and your ilk need to understand though is that many of us are aware of certain tendencies towards the convergence of populism as represented by yourself, and business interests both within the ANC and the ANCYL. I harbor no hatred for Julius but will always disagree with him where necessary. I will not be brow-bitten by insults of anyone to submit to the new wave of defending Malema at all costs. The ANCYL is paramount to any individual leader. Maybe there is a myth that must be undone once and for all. It is not true that the mere fact that we are youth makes us to be incapable of reasoning and act in a responsible way. To want to equate political naivety of certain young leaders to that of the past generations is a serious sign of a current generation of youth that refuses to learn from the mistakes of the past. In political terms we fail to understand the importance of historical materialism. To say that Julius is a young man who is still learning when ever he spews bile, is politically irresponsible because many comrades are never treated with such kids' gloves in the movement. Leadership of the ANCYL must take responsibility for their action and must be held to account by the general membership on any behaviour that is unbecoming of the ANCYL. Politically, there can be no justification for any generation to fail to identify its mission and do everything necessary to achieve it. Last but not least, in any politically contested organization like the ANC, comrades will always hold different views but within a set common framework. If we allow idiots like Zondi to berate insults at anyone who seem to disagree with Malema, then we must know that we have mini dictators disguising as youth leaders. I wonder how the debates in Zondi's branch YL meetings are. I suppose comrades can't even finish their input because you jump to your gun full of insults and shoot at them. Mzukisi Makatse ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Samson Zondi Sent: 29 January 2010 08:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Article from Sowetan Comrade Funky, I absolutely agree with you (see my view below written in an attempt to respond to cde Mzukusi's points). He chooses to rely more on gossip mongering and conspiratorial thinking such as that the so-called "...resource-hungry comrades..." have daggers against Cde Mantashe because he is apparently perceived to be blocking them from enjoying the spoils of the Zuma-led administration. What a funny and baseless accusation typical of neo-liberal media-constructed line of reasoning? I think the comrade must equally tell or give us more facts or the specifics of this baseless accusation. Failure to do so will be tantamount to admitting that the comrade is just purely jealous about Comrade Malema''s and his collective's achievements thus far or is extending or attributing his own ambitions to Comrade Killerman. His obsession with rubbishing the YL president blinds him from seeing the visibly fact that the Comrade Malema was accompanying Gauteng education department's officials who anyway were conducting 'routine' school visits. Why do you then single out Cde Malema from the whole delegation? Do you know something that some of us at the grass root level do not know about? Is hatred for Malema too intense that you risk your 'political maturity' by choosing to create and perpetuate half-baked conspiracy theories? Why do think its only Comrade Gwede that deserves to be defended and that Malema must be attacked as you do? I hope comrades will transcend beyong emotions and have mercy on the YL President. After all we are diamonds that are currently being polished which means getting dirty does not mean we must be thrown away, because once the polishing process is concluded we will come out to be one of the best diamonds (eg. Lembede, Mandela, Mokaba, Gigaba, Mbalula and the current brand of diamonds). Phansi Ngabathakathi and Hands Off YL President Hands Off T.S. Zondi Defense for Malema Equals the Defense of the twin-tasks struggle! >>> "KGALE GODFREY MAILA" <[email protected]> 1/28/2010 4:48 PM >>> By strange means, there seems to be high level hatred, very so pre-occupying the adrenalines of some comrades, towards Malema. What is wrong with ANCYL President executing ANCYL programme. The programme of visiting schools is not Malema's individual programme, excited somewhere... NO, It is a programme of the ANCYL, and the President, as its face, is correct to lead that programme. Even lower structures, Provinces, Regions and Branches can visit these schools in their localities. There is no issue here, Deputy President did not say schools must not be visited at all, but during times that are convinient and less-disruptive. It is true that this is a tradition of the congress movement, to visit schools at the beginning of the year, It should not be only a Minister responsible, but the leadership can always visit, more especially at the beginning of the year. Sowetan qouted Kgalema out of context, and is important to note that the ANCYL programme was not decided over a bottle of a red wine. Funky Mpumalanga >>> [email protected] 01/28/10 4:05 PM >>> The recent wave against the Secretary General of the ANC, comrade Gwede Mantashe, is a serious threat to the stability of the ANC. It is crucial that all members of the ANC defend our Secretary General because that would be tantamount to defending the ANC! We cannot keep silent when we know that those who hoped to ascend to the top echelons of resources during the Zuma administration, are now frustrated because comrade Nobhala has tightened screws and they want him out. The truth is that among those who called for leadership change in Polokwane, there were those who had hoped that once that leadership was gone, it was to be their turn at the spoils of power. However, they used a certain rhetoric that was to count against them because many of us took it seriously the call that we must fight corruption with every sinew of our able bodies. That the ANC must prioritise the poor and the working people as the most vulnerable sections of our society was (and still is) for many of us a line of march. Comrade SG represents the aspirations of many of the poor and working masses of our population. This anger towards him is an attempt to deflect the ANC from its historic mission of creating a better life for all, particularly for the poor and the working masses of this country. This wave of resource-hungry comrades has also converged with that of those whose political ambitions threaten to tear the ANC into pieces. This convergence has been laid bare during the course of last week. The defiance of the political authority of the SG office and that of the ANC by a NEC member like Tokyo Sexwale over his report; the visit to Kgutsong School by Julius Malema and his comments afterwards on the warning by the Deputy President of the ANC and the country, comrade Kgalema Mothlanthe, was not a coincidence but a signal that comrades are prepared to do anything to get their 'share' and fulfill their ambitions. It must be a wake-up call to all of us ordinary members of the ANC that evil thrives where good men and women do nothing. The ANC needs its members to defend it during this period towards our centenary in 2012. That conference in 2012 will either ruin the ANC because of these uncontrollable ambitions; or unite all of us because as ordinary members of the ANC we would have refused to be led by those whose interests are inimical to those of the ANC. And because we would have stood up and said: Hands Off Our Secretary General! Mzukisi Makatse ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thabiso Radebe Sent: 28 January 2010 11:24 AM To: Cassey Madikgetla; Pogisho Seokamo; [email protected] Subject: Fwd: [YCLSA Discussion] Article from Sowetan Maybe we must after all agree, here we are dealing with a paranoia. For how long , how many times . I still don't buy the clumsy excuses of us having to allow Youth Leagues members or its leaders to go on confrontational course with its own ANC senior leadership. To crown it all even ignoring comradely advices given by our Mass Democratic Movement structures. Malema suffers from accumulation of bubble wealth after effects, His capitalist handlers keep so busy in return for his cooption into a patronage driven politics. Innocent and unsuspecting loyal ANC members with thier cult for power by hook or crook . In anyway ANC YL legacy will remain in tact once democratic process have sought out the Bully Vague Malema Animal Farm syndrome. With all due respect this ill-discipline practice has been unnecessarily tolerated and incorrectly allowed to go too far. This must come to an end . For sanity to prevail all sober and visionary ANC- YL members themselves have to recall this rascal. The constitution makes a provision to remedy such conditions of unbearable destructive mode, for me the organizational cohesion ,strength to provide necessary leadership should be exchanged for anything not even insults. All structures starting with provinces must wake up and save ANC YL from degenerating any further. This move has absolutely nothing to do with factional tendencies but a principled matter if we really value the undisputed political contributions made by previous ANC YL leadership collectives .The MALEMA generation must be reminded that they are no different from thier predecessors they seem to have consciously taken a destructive tone, with so very less positive things to be remembered for. Malema disrespecting youth league members by running the organizations affairs like unguided missile this is cheap politicking with falls notion to capture cheap political fame. His forever in the media for wrong reasons . We expect ANC YL that's responsibility in the effort of being good custodians, I am not advocating macro management but we need sound leadership to walk and talk youth development not this sensationalism act .How far is the Malema- NEC collective in implementing the Mangaung/ Bloemfontein conference resolutions ? What the basis of ANC YL structures current Program of Action ? Stop pursuing politics of opposition this no different from the cope or da of this world who just go on rampage abusing our hard fought democracy . ANC elected leaders deserve to given all due respect no matter how we may differ with thier views .. But light of this reality might all be equally be guilty for doing nothing to stop anarchy that being entrenched within our structures ANC YL being used as launching pad . Comrades history is going to punish us very harsh for succumbing to this type of battering politicking a reminiscent of the PAC COPE rebellions. There is nothing revolutionary about Malema drama but only scandalous. But we are also faced with the big challenge of going beyond Malema sage to establish how many of other Malemas out there misrepresenting ANC internal democratic space for members to express thier views . What informs this persistence culture of arrogant defiance on the part of Malema? ALUTA CONTINUA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> <[email protected]> 2010/01/28 09:20 AM >>> From: Sandile Ngcobo Comments: I wonder how does these visits benefits scholars, and uplift the culture of learning and teaching; or its another publicity stunt. I understand only; The Right To Learn Campaign. Keep Malema out of the schools - Kgalema DEPUTY President Kgalema Motlanthe yesterday sent a message to school principals to lock out ANC Youth League president Julius Malema. Click here to go to the article <http://www.sowetan.co.za/article.aspx?id=1108641> -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. 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