Dear Comrades and Cadres!
This is my brief contribution to President Jacob Zuma’s recent media revelations that he has a child with Irvin Khoza’s daughter. President Jacob Zuma had consensual sex with Iron Duke’s ‘daughter’, and this should not be a matter of public interest or consumption? What happens in someone’s bedroom is a private matter which does not require any interference by the media including the State. Journalists and political elites alike do not write or publicly tell us about their bedrooms passionate sessions or sexual relationships! The self-anointed high priest of morality as represented by the DA and ACDP will argue that President Zuma is married and that he should respect the institution of marriage. On that one I will disagree. Under the Capitalist system, marriage is an institution of patriarchal dominance and equally of unpaid labour. What we need to do here is to make a clear separation of marriage, morality and privacy. The fact that one is married is not an automatic license for others to invade and trash upon their privacy. Now President Zuma’s private life is undersiege. He has been thrown to the media wolves; both his dignity and that of the Iron Duke’s daughter he is ‘alleged’ to have impregnated and involved with have been violated and compromised in pursuit of circulation margins and profits by the media which appears more interested in feeding the public junk stories as if we are residing in America or Italy. The puritanical witch hunt against President Zuma waged by the liberal media and the opposition is a typical modern day version of Christian fundamentalist crusades against ‘sin’. Married adults, are treated as though they are de facto sinners and sex pests. This witch hunt reinforces the idea in the public sphere that it is morally wrong for either a ‘married’ man or woman to be sexually intimate with an unmarried partner. This interference in President Zuma’s private life aims at re-engineering society to conform to the capitalist sex ‘norm’ of one man and one woman for life, hence denying the complexity of human sexuality. One of the greatest Marxist female thinkers Alexandra Kollontai once made this observation *“there is no doubt: under communism all dependence of women upon men and all the elements of material calculation found in modem marriage will be absent. Sexual relationships will be based on a healthy instinct for reproduction prompted by the abandon of young love, or by fervent passion, or by a blaze of physical attraction or by a soft light of intellectual and emotional harmony”.* Mas’jule Ngengxoxo! *Castro Ngobese*** On 01/02/2010, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cde President, > > > I'm afraid that is a bit of a stretch, even for me, cde Pres. I don't think > I am going to be able to find Max du Preez's work on private lives. It's > like looking for a needle in a haystack > > > Isn't the argument over in this matter of private/public settled, anyway? I > mean, the question of condoms and faithfulness has been preached in public > to young people for many years already. The question of unmarried > pregnancies, at least among young women still schooling, has been in the > public realm for years, too. > > > I think my good and honest comrade Lerato Motimele is correct about this. > If the story is true, then it is nobody but the President (not you, I mean > the State President!) who has embarrassed himself and all of his supporters. > If the story is true, it is the State President who has handed a stick to > Meshoe, and to the DA, to beat us all with. > > > As for the Zulu manhood thing, eish, can somebody else please deal with > that? > > > Question: When Mrs Tiger Woods chased him out of the house with a golf > club, and Tiger in his panic drove the family Cadillac into a tree in the > street, was that a public or a private event? Do the YCL comrades have a > view about that, or are they pretending that they never heard about it? > > > Asikhulume! > > > VC > > > > > > > On 1 February 2010 11:49, sabelo gina <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Cde VC, >> >> I am told Max Du Preez once wrote an opinion piece in the Star about >> "private lives" of leaders and he was attacked by his colleagues that hey >> are not interested in their private lives but their public issues. I do not >> know they seperated the two spheres of life then, public and private. Can >> you see if you can pick it up for the forum. >> >> Comradely, >> >> Sabelo >> >> >> On 2/1/10, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Let's suppose that we suddenly get "a newspaper strictly run by the ANC >>> and accesible to masses and compulsory at schools, a government paper on >>> progress by the ANC and for the people." >>> >>> >>> The other papers will still be there, or are you proposing to suppress >>> them? If they are still there they will still be reporting things like >>> Kenneth Meshoe's remarks. If you suppress them it could be worse. >>> >>> >>> Who will be writing for this proposed new ANC paper? Let's say it >>> employ's 20. Who will they be? Floyd Shivambu? Adam Habib? Joel >>> Netshitenzhe? Ngoako Ramatlhodi? >>> >>> >>> If you are not careful we would be out of the frying-pan and into the >>> fire, with just a few selected voices and none of the ones we would prefer >>> to hear. >>> >>> >>> None of that is not going to happen, but if it does or if it does not, >>> the development of new writers is what matters here. >>> >>> >>> This forum has helped many writers. Let it continue to do so, and if they >>> want to write about the President's alleged love-child with the "Iron >>> Duke's" daughter, then let them. We live in South Africa, not an ivory >>> tower. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> VC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1 February 2010 10:50, kholekile shasha <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> cdes >>>> >>>> revolution comes with attacks on the head of an organization ways and >>>> means to try and destroy him so as to take away power from the ruling >>>> party. >>>> our president must not even comment on this matter as it is a private >>>> affair. the rev Moshoe yes has shown disrespect, he has used this platform >>>> to secure those 1 or 2 votes for a seat in parliament. he is not a problem >>>> the main people are the media and we all know who is behind the >>>> media.......international antirevolutionaries and the DA that have control >>>> of our banks and minerals, we just need to continue at our work towards >>>> nationalization and distribution of wealth this is just a mere sign that we >>>> are doing good everytime an attack is made on our president.let us also in >>>> this spirit propose a newspaper strictly run by the ANC and accesible to >>>> masses and compulsory at schools, a government paper on progress by the ANC >>>> and for the people. >>>> >>>> amandla >>>> >>>> cde SHASHA >>>> 0722157052 >>>> >>>> BUILDING SOCIALISM FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR ALL. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Tsubane Motlatsi <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Mon, February 1, 2010 10:32:00 AM >>>> *Subject:* RE: [YCLSA Discussion]Unfounded fallacy about President of >>>> the Country >>>> >>>> Hi comrades, I have been monitoring your interactions throughout since >>>> from last year and early this year. What is interesting is to see how eager >>>> comrades are to engage on issues, however, it was also quit interesting how >>>> comrades display their shenanigan tendencies, dealing with petty issues and >>>> using derogative language on one another. For an example this allegation on >>>> the president, comrades again allow themselves to be dictated by the media >>>> to craft a debate for them. This matter is a non matter and there’re far >>>> better issues to deal with. The people affected have not even engaged on >>>> the >>>> matter if it is true, but comrades have already expressed opinion on it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think lets keep the character of this forum it is, let’s not vulgarise >>>> it cadres, lets try to be fundamental as much as we can I am not suggesting >>>> that we have to be stiff but lets not loose content. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Motlatsi >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected] ] *On Behalf Of *Xoli Dlabantu >>>> *Sent:* 01 February 2010 09:44 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [YCLSA Discussion]Unfounded fallacy about President of >>>> the Country >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What about the fact that Moshoe's party was formed 4 months before >>>> elections as a National Party puppet...so what kind of an addict is he. A >>>> slave addict, a sell-out....or whatever...does it really matter. I think >>>> Moshoe is sick, and he needs to be laid hands on by his congregation before >>>> he can proclaim to be a reverend..and later undergo counselling sessions. >>>> He >>>> should undergo esteem and ego counselling sessions, and appreciate who he >>>> really is ..not a white puppet hiding behind the vail of religion..Moshoe >>>> is >>>> not God...He's a mere right-wing puppet masquerading as a priest...a puppet >>>> who does what he knows best...howling...solution..disregard him... >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Khutjo Mphahlele < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Morning comrades >>>> >>>> I'm currently concern comrades about The so called Reverend Kenneth >>>> Meshoe >>>> on the rumors that President Jacob Zuma is the father of 4 Months old >>>> Baby >>>> Thandekile Matina Khoza,Moruti wa Tsotsi Meshoe just labeled our >>>> President >>>> as 'Sex addict' who should go for rehab. Rubbishing the name and image >>>> of >>>> the President in this regard its totally unacceptable and Meshoe must >>>> apologize in public and to the President as well. In the Bible King >>>> Solomon >>>> has many wives, so why JZ should become a laughing stock when he emerge >>>> on >>>> other woman. If you are man enough you should make children and if you >>>> are >>>> woman enough you should be able to give birth as long as you like with >>>> whoever you feel like he is your class..Sonono Khoza she is grown-up and >>>> she >>>> can be Pregnant with whoever she feels like. Zuma he is the father of >>>> the >>>> nation and we as son and daughters of the soil we must have our your >>>> sisters >>>> and brothers... >>>> >>>> Sechaba ase yatee Morena Zuma..Baba Kenneth 'moruti wa tsotsi'Meshoe gaa >>>> dule le Sugar Diabetes ya gage..Wena Zuma O monna wa Nnete Mogagesho.. >>>> >>>> Amandla. >>>> >>>> >>>> DISCLAIMER: >>>> This message and its attachments may contain information which is >>>> confidential, private or privileged in nature or is protected by law. 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