Comrades With due respect could esteem comrades clarify some issues here if 60% is being sat aside for state ownership of the mining houses , how does that becames nationalisation? I know of couple of people incliding myself who for the past ten years or so bought any material which one can say is from the mineral of this world GOD. Last time I heard the left wanted SASOL to be re-nationalised and is profitable , are the mines profitable ?are we using their products the way we use SASOL ? Maybe I am stupid I don't know ANC YL position on industrial policy and labour brokers , the things that I believe thier target market is well affected daily I never heard or read about thier statment of support of organised labour when they rise this issues that ultimately affect their supposed tagert market , Has YL becames some right wing pressure grouping within the NRD or is just unfoutunate to have misguided leadership ?
--- On Mon, 2/22/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media STATEMENT OF ANCYL GAUTENG PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 2:14 PM It is unfortunate to see how thinngs are unfolding. I do not think the Alliance is ready for what is about to happend and as members of the YL we are left wondering what is the next step in the whole process. I wonder if the PEC did think thoroughly prior to releasing the sad statement. It looks like our comrades will now make tabloid-journalists who simply ignore facts and just write about what will excite the public. Even if it means lampooning some of tehir own as they do with others. Comrades that are branded communists While we are trying to go through the document that speaks on the Youth League's position on Nationalisation, we now have this distraction over personal issue, that does not really affect the functioning of the Youth League. I hope that it is not true that some comrades were involved in leaking information to the media, otherwise that will be really puerile and stupid of them to have done so. They will certainly not deserve our respect for that, and that will stay with them forever and stain them politically. I am sure there is a better way of handling differences than the way we are doing now. I refuse to believe that what we are seeing is the modern Youth League, no! Something is not really right here, and we must correct it. And sooner that later. Branches are supposed to prepapre for regional and provincial conferences, but they are getting distracted by non-political issues and statements issued on their behalf. Is it because in the Youth League we do not have the likes of Pallo Jordan and Zola Skweyiya to reprimand us when we err. Surely, ther must be some comrades who can do that, even if they are not in a quest to lead in any way. And they must not portray themselves as the paragon of political correctness, but as people who will make us that we are erring. Maybe we are just overwhelmed by excitement. Lembede, Tambo, Mda, Mandela, Mbeki, Zuma, Mokaba and others are not happy with what the Youth League has become. We need to be influening the ANC is some positive way, not making such headlines. Where is COSAS supposed to learn? More, espacially in their current situation, while we are busy labelling and insulting each other. > Cde Lebohang and Sandile, in as much as your worries concerning the > statement may be genuine, i suppose you must understand that there is > deeper than this. You will be shocked to know that the "Story on Malama > Millions" was crafted and leaked to the media by two senior SACP leaders > and one senior YCL leader in Parliament on Thursday hours before The > State of the Nation Address. So it is undoubtedly "a war", and that > "war" is unfortunately centred around "ANC SG posisition". So, you > should understand it within that context, that is "a war" and ANCYL > appears to be ready for this war. > > You are still going to see lot of dirty linen in the media, especially > on the so called "high profile political lifestyle audit". Remember > Journalist are human beings, who drinks and dines with us, so they tell > us these things. > > Funky Maila > >>>> [email protected] 02/22/10 12:09 PM >>> > Sandile I agree with you here, the Provincial Secretary of the ANCYL > in > Gauteng is missing an opportunity to present supporting facts. > > > > But equally what is unfortunate is this name calling thing on behalf > of > the leadership and structures of the ANCYL Gauteng. To refer to the GS > of the Party as he did is totally out of order and very much > unfortunate. I am just commenting on my personal capacity as a member > of > the ANCYL in Gauteng Province [who happens to be in good standing] > that > I am convinced that structures of the ANCYL in the Province will not > agree with the insinuations made by its Secretary regarding Cdes Blade > & > Zwelinzima. Lastly I hope Cde Kupa will be alive to fact that when he > releases an official statement it represents the ANCYL in Gauteng, > which > therefore suggests that it can't be based on personal views and > emotions. > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 11:51 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media STATEMENT OF ANCYL > GAUTENG PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA > > > > Of yellow communists and blue eyed boys. > > I read this statement three times trying to understand what is its > message. There is absolutely nothing. It has not made anymore certain > as > to the validity of the allegations levelled against Cde President. > This > is the highest level of staunchism. Staunchists (fanatical supporters, > who cannot and are not interested in fact and reason) like Kupa are > feeding the frenzy by reducing to name calling and miss an opportunity > to present supporting facts. What does Mr. R500000 and yellow > communist > mean? And so what if Cde President is from a poor family, does that > give > him carte blanch to plunder as he pleases. This is really shallow. > > ________________________________ > > From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:13:35 +0200 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Fwd: ANC YL Media STATEMENT OF ANCYL > GAUTENG > PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA > > > > > > STATEMENT OF ANCYL GAUTENG PROVINCE ON THE VICIOUS ATTACK OF OUR > PRESIDENT JULIUS MALEMA > > > > 21 February 2010 > > The Gauteng ANCYL wishes to express its outmost disgust on the recent > media reports that seek to portray President Julius Malema as a > corrupt > individual as coined by yellow communist and embraced by white > capitalist controlled sensational media. We reject this assertion > and > its association to our President, who by the way is not a public > servant > or any thing of that sort. > > We wish to state on record that President Malema is employed by the > African National Congress (ANC). When masses of our people called on > him > to serve the state and its institutions; he requested the leadership > collective to allow him to finish his task as President of the ANCYL. > Unlike those who jumped into the bandwagon to serve that state > irrespective of task given by their respective organizations. We are > fully aware that they did so to build friendship with the media and > imperialist to attack the moral standing of our President. We thought > this tendency of using state apparatus and media to attack fellow > comrades was defeated in Polokwane, little did we know that it > continues > raising its ugly head post Polokwane. > > We wish to take this opportunity to remind South Africans at large > that > President Malema is a political activist who is a child of > working-class > and poor family. His work for the poor is well known to everyone; > therefore any attempt by forces that connives with capital to > discredit > him has never and will not succeed. > > We are very clear as Gauteng ANCYL that we currently in the congress > mood, hence many comrades are attempting to deflect our attention from > both policy (Nationalization) and leadership articulation and > preference > debate throughout our structures in the province and national. With > regard to nationalization, the debate is on how it should happen not > whether it will happen. We are taking this policy debate to our > structures and eventually the ANC NGC later this year. Structures of > the > ANCYL in Gauteng and we believe the rest of the country are singing > Fikile Mbalula for ANC Secretary General in 2012. This call is not > made > by President Malema, rather all structures of the organization. Those > who wish to silence and deter us from mobilization young people who > have > already swelled the ranks of the ANC and postured in favour of > generational mix leadership debate should not attempt to defocus us > from > this important task of the organization. > > Those deployed in government and not delivering the mandate of the ANC > should not equally seek to use the state machinery to persecute one of > our own (President Malema). Through our President we will continue > challenging those who are inefficient, lazy and corrupt. Our campaign > to fix the rotten Public Enterprise, Mining Departments and the over > dominance of minorities in the economic cluster of the cabinet are > issues we will continue raising sharply. > > We support the lifestyle audit of those in government, trade unions in > particular Zwelinzima Vavi and Mr. R500, 000 plastic bag. We call > upon > independent auditors to check transactions and accumulation during the > same period. > > President Malema like any other human being know people and for the > record he does not dish out tenders as alleged by yellow communist and > the white capitalist media. Any attempt to associate a success of a > black child to corruption is malicious and unwarranted. We refuse to > accept all nonsensical weekend publications and we will work > tirelessly > to inform our structure soon on the overall plot and battles ahead. > > Forward to 2012 > > Issued by ANCYL Gauteng > > Contact Provincial Secretary > Cde. Thabo Kupa > 079 8111222 > [email protected] > > > -- > You are subscribed. 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