Once more you wrote a long paragraph and saying nothing, except hot air. My membership or non membership has nothing to do with my standpoint on this particular issue.
Engage on the issue From: Sithembewena tsembeyi To: YCL SA Discussion Blog Sent: Fri Mar 26 17:15:59 SAST 2010 Subject: Fw: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Jub Jub prosecutor relieved of duties Once in a beginning you try to conduct something with out insighting discontent to our hard fought liberation, I congratulate you for that, but however you still have a lot to learn.My point is we find Lumpens like you in this revolution for no apparent reason but to advance neo-liberal and empiricist propaganda, I have read the content of the Posted attckle by VC and you had just past a un-principled, un-communist, un-party and un-revolutionary comment.We have heard much delusional people like you, trying to convince firstly themselves or and the entire society that SA is heading to a BANANA REPUBLIC, and you without outlining any content in your contributions, you have completed like a Sangoma that we are heading to that, and I had found that un-comradely and a pure anocho-syndicalist tendency and that should not be tolerated at any point.If you would have read my latest contribution on Chris Hani, you should note that some of the comments he made in his lifetime are a reflection of what you are....I don't want to trow bone and think that you are a member of the SACP, YCL or any other progressive organization but if you were you could have noted that you un-informed conclussion is nothing but what Goerge Bush has named Terrorism So chief Start to think clear and note that this forum is a YCL and the YCL is a progressive movement that is very clear on its role and the role played by the leading organization (ANC) in the state, it can hardly be allowed that people should come an insult our long fought liberation and name our democratic country as a degenerating one toward a BANANA REPUBLIC.and thats content my broer....<span style="font-weight: bold;">Hasta Siempre la comandanteSithembewena "Che" TsembeyiSocialismo o MuerteFrom: Tumi Gopane <[email protected]>To: Sithembewena tsembeyi <[email protected]>; [email protected]: Fri, March 26, 2010 4:53:59 PMSubject: RE: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Jub Jub prosecutor relieved of duties Cde Tsembeyi I thought that this forum allowed individuals to make whatever comments as long as they do not insult anyone or use derogatory language. Your comment also smacks of intolerance to views that you do not share. Why forced removal? Rather than regurgitating English words like "rhetoric" without saying much, make your point. Regards, Tumelo G. From: Sithembewena tsembeyi To: [email protected] Sent: Fri Mar 26 16:46:25 SAST 2010 Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Jub Jub prosecutor relieved of duties Ideological Vendor based on rhetoric, compradorial Ideological hermaphrodite logic again here you go.Learn to discuss with content failure to that we would request VC to use the Force removal from this blog.Hasta Siempre la comandante Sithembewena TsembeyiSocialismo o MuerteFrom: Tumi Gopane <[email protected]>To: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]>; [email protected]: Fri, March 26, 2010 4:37:25 PMSubject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Jub Jub prosecutor relieved of duties Banana Republic based on the Lamprecht issue, here we come. From: Dominic Tweedie To: [email protected] Sent: Fri Mar 26 15:41:30 SAST 2010 Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Jub Jub prosecutor relieved of duties Jub Jub prosecutor relieved of duties Sonja Carstens en Dani?lla du Plooy, Beeld, Johannesburg, 25 March 2010 Johannesburg - A chief State prosecutor has been relieved of his duties after he refused to execute the orders of Menzi Simelane, head of the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA). The orders were that he should not contest bail for the musician Jub Jub. Andr? (Lampies) Lambrecht, 60, chief State prosecutor of the West Rand, was given the order three times. Gladstone Maema, acting director of public prosecution (DPP) in Gauteng, phoned Lambrecht twice to say Simelane had given the order. Maema repeated the order to Lambrecht for the third time in person. Lambrecht refused to execute the order unless he received it in writing, which he did not receive. Lambrecht didn't respond to Simelane's verbal order, and the State did oppose Jub Jub's bail application. Visit from Malema On Friday Magistrate Andr? Auret granted bail of R10 000 to Jub Jub (Molemo Maarohanye). The hip hop star is facing murder charges since he was involved in a car race which ended in a crash which killed four schoolboys in Soweto. One day before Jub Jub's bail application was set to begin, he received a visit in detention from Julius Malema, president of the ANC Youth League. Maema gave Lambrecht a letter on Tuesday in which he was relieved of his managerial duties and told to work as a prosecutor in court. No reasons were given. Lambrecht has been chief State prosecutor of the West Rand for the past ten years. The prosecutors of Krugersdorp, Soweto, Randfontein and Roodepoort, among others, fall under him. Magistrate Gert Jonker, chief magistrate of Johannesburg, said in response to a question that the court management was informed on Thursday morning that Lambrecht has been relieved of his managerial duties. "I'm shocked. He was an extremely capable chief prosecutor." 'Unreasonable treatment' Manie de Clercq, deputy head manager of the Public Servants Association (PSA), said the case has been reported to the civil service union. The union will be taking steps in accordance with the Labour Act to support Lambrecht with the "unreasonable treatment" he received from his employer. Lambrecht was demoted without any disciplinary steps taken against him. Jan Henning, former deputy chief of the NPA, described Lambrecht as "one of the pillars which keeps the prosecuting authority in the lower courts standing". "If that (what happened) is the case, it's a harsh insult to someone who doesn't deserve it at all and to someone who has made a much bigger contribution to the practice of law that those who decided to relieve him of his duties." 'Not about Jub Jub case' When Maema was approached for comment, he said Lambrecht's "move" had nothing to do with the Jub Jub case. "It's part of our strategy to move these people with the expertise to the lower courts because we need them there, and big cases are increasingly being heard in lower courts. "This is something we've been planning for quite some time. Three other people (in similar positions) were also moved to lower courts on the same day." According to Maema, the decision regarding the moves was made before bail was granted in the Jub Jub case. He did admit that he had spoken to Lambrecht about the Jub Jub case and the granting of bail, but said the two issues are not related at all. "As DPP I have to discuss issues such as this (granting of bail and the charges against Jub Jub). We did so, and I communicated the decision to Simelane." Lambrecht declined to comment. - Beeld From: http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/35a8c22afa214e949f6b6725bc2c6d74/25-03-2010-11-17/Jub_Jub_prosecutor_relieved_of_duties -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . 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