Patience has nothing to do with it. I just moderated you on the wring list, that's all, but now I've got you moderated here.
"Just wondering" tells me all I need to know. VC On 17 October 2012 22:58, Thabo Njinga <[email protected]> wrote: > Comrade vc I accept the moderation and hope to still receive the material. > It's true that am not a witness, but let me try and explain. I beg for your > patience. One of the arrested is my friend with whom we started the study > cycles, we lost him on the way. He tried calling me upon his arrest to > inform his family. I got people to go to the station and that was their > account. As I said ever since that strike we haven't talked me and him as > am far. But I am not claiming coarse and effect for marikana was just > wondering. Thanks for your patience > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:44 PM, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Cde Njinga, > > What you are giving us is "hearsay". You are not the witness to any > assaults by the police upon those they have arrested. > > One top of your hearsay you build an alarm tower. You say you don't > condone something but immediately you suggest that the perpetrators were > provoked to do what they did by the police. > > As your moderator, I do not have patience with this kind of stuff because > it is not honest. In the first line already you try to deceive by giving > apologies for digressing and then digressing. Why did you dump this > irrelevant stuff on Cde Sbu's post. > > You are moderated. > > VC > > > > > On 17 October 2012 22:21, Thabo Njinga <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Apologies for digressing comrades. One looses hope when a police services >> actively participates directly in industrial labour disputes. The amplats >> workers are on strike, it is an illegal one for two weeks. Am informed of >> workers arrested in the last 30 minutes. They were taken to a police >> station people there are reporting that they are being assaulted. Will this >> not escalate the tension and breed another marikana. To now at the mine no >> one is killed except the minor treatments and smashing of vehicles( which I >> don't condone). When have we lost the passion and determination to uphold >> the law and respect rights. Would it in retrospect maybe point to that the >> police provoked the violent reaction. Comrades kindly guide and maybe let's >> escalate the possible role of the other non transformed, anti worker >> policemen and women who protect capital by trumping the workers especially >> the poor. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 17 Oct 2012, at 5:09 PM, Sibusiso Mchunu <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> My dearest Communist comrades >> >> YCL for the past few months and continue to hold Bua-Thursday, and i have >> been fortunate that i have attended a few of these Bua-Thursday debates. i >> must be quick to point out that Bua-Thursday came at the right time whereby >> it encourage debate among fellow comrades. it is the best initiative and i >> hope i will not loose momentum and will continue beyond Mangaung until >> possible we realise Socialism in our life time. >> >> I must also in the spirit of polemic and being comradely to the YCL, that >> these debate are styled in a Teacher-Student relationship, whereby a >> Speaker (whoever it may be) comes and address and then followed up with >> questions from the floor (like students in class asking a teacher) and the >> Speaker respond. at the end everybody goes home. >> >> I think this approach of a Student-Teacher relationship fails to add >> value and content of the debate, and i will urge the YCL that maybe they >> should look at other methods of debating, so that a Speaker talk-less and >> both the Speaker and the comrades elevate the debate to have content and >> direction with our understanding of the direction we are taking to realise >> Socialism in our lifetime. >> >> I will propose to YCL, that they join forces with the Communist >> University [CU] whereby comrades come to the CU to learn as much as >> possible on classic and other Marxism-Leninism documents and put them into >> practice on Bua-Thursday, so that even the clarity-seeking question can be >> located within logical Scientific of Communism, so that we can be in a >> position to respond meaningful to challenges that faces us all. >> >> I think CU is better placed and last SACP Congress resolved on Political >> education, and CU provide the theoretical part of Political Education as >> resolved by the Congress and YCL Bua-Thursday gives the practical aspect of >> the political and a Bigger school whereby the application is tested >> Scientifically with engagement with Speakers from the Bua-Thursday. >> >> As of now i think YCL and CU are better placed to produce sound leaders >> through both YCL and CU complementing each other, rather than reinventing >> the wheel. >> >> I am sure the Vice Chancellor of the CU will be happy to be part of >> assisting uFasimba as we all look forward to produce comrades for SACP who >> are well rounded. >> >> >> >> Sibusiso Mchunu >> >> >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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