On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 11:40:37PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 03:09:02PM -0500, Tom Rini wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 09:06:38PM +0100, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: > >... > > > So as expected systemd is there and busybox is not. But there is a lot of > > > useful commands missing on the resulting QEMU image: > > > > > > root@qemux86:~# ps > > > ~sh: ps: command not found > > > root@qemux86:~# w > > > ~sh: w: command not found > > > root@qemux86:~# find > > > ~sh: find: command not found > > > root@qemux86:~# grep > > > ~sh: grep: command not found > > > root@qemux86:~# ip addr > > > ~sh: ip: command not found > > > > > > I expected that all the limited busybox commands would be replaced by > > > the full > > > featured commands. How to fix that ? > > > > Correct, you're missing a lot of stuff. Somewhere on my (and other > > folks too) TODO list is a packagegroup that includes procps and psmisc > > and grep and tar and various network packages and less and more and... > > "all the limited busybox commands would be replaced" would be a huge > list from dc through gawk, minicom and wget to vim. > > And would vim-tiny qualify as "the full featured command" of busybox vi, > or should this include vim with full features?
What to suggest in the busybox-replacement group is a bit of a challenge as to how far you want to really push things, yes. > The nice thing about busybox is that it is so small, > in many cases one full featured command alone > is bigger than busybox. > > It is not obvious to me what usecases people have in mind for > getting rid of busybox, and whether everyone is aware that > something like "all busybox commands replaced" is *very* > expensive regarding filesystem size. The use case for not having busybox installed is something like the project I'm doing where I have 4G of disk space to dedicate to "give me something like a standard Linux environment". Since I need to replace less (doesn't work with systemd PAGER), and I want my usual arguments to 'ps' to work, and then a handful of other things, I want the full regular versions of utils, and at that point, I want "command not found" as a reminder to grab what I really want not busybox doing it for me. All that said, I am a huge fan of busybox when I need to save space. I have and continue to push back when customers ask about dropping busybox for non-technical grounds. It's also just true that not every case of an OE use is somewhere that busybox is the best fit. -- Tom
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