Where does one find more information about miniRTL 2.0?

Thanks
Adam


At 03:32 PM 11/16/99 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 02:47:22PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> THANKS, Stuart and GN DeSouza for the table posted comparing RTL & RTAI in
>> such a basic and cogent way!  A first question about it:
>>         Under the column 486, RTL v2 with linux kernel 2.2.x reads "n" =>
>> presumably meaning this does not run on 486's.  But is that true?  I've run
>> miniRTL 2.0 derived directly from RTL 2.0, with kernel 2.2.13 on a
Pentium I.   
>
>The table  is not correct. We do great on 486s now. 
>
>> 
>> Either way, this table would be great in THE RT MANUAL, with a change in
>> header(s) so as to include 586es.  I could help with the manual too, but
>> again as noviate.
>> 
>> Dr. S.C.
>> 
>> 
>> At 02:54 PM 16-11-1999 +0000, you wrote:
>> >Hi Gloria,
>> >
>> >I have forwarded a table previously posted on the RTL list.
>> >
>> >Stuart.
>> >
>> >Gl�ria wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Hello:
>> >> 
>> >> Is there any document about the differences betwen RTL and RTAI?
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks in advance.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> --
>> >> Gl�ria Hern�ndez Ballester
>> >> 
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>> >From: Guilherme Nelson DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Reply-To: Guilherme Nelson DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Subject: [rtl] Table, API
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>> >
>> > Again, thanks to those who sent corrections/suggestions.
>> > 
>> > The table and API-differences below are getting smoother.
>> >I hope it has converged to something useful to other people
>> >in this list.
>> >
>> > As we all (probably) expected, the differences between RTL
>> >and RTAI are NOT that many (refer to RTLv2 and RTAIv6). As
>> >a matter of fact, in my opinion the "only" discussion in this
>> >list should be around POSIX compliance, once that this should
>> >be the common denominator and, at the same time, the unifier
>> >between both implementations. Other than that there are some
>> >"unimportant" details such as unified header files, similar
>> >installations, etc. But yet, that should come naturally after.
>> >
>> >  
>> >    Guilherme
>> >    
>> >    
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
>> >|     | I | S | Sched.  | S |Po-  |pthre|F   | Shr| FP | GPL | Ker-  | 486
>> | PPC |
>> >|     | P | e |    |    | M | six |    -| I  | Mem|    |     |  nel  |
>> |     |
>> >|     | C | m |Per.| OS | P |     |ads  |  FO|    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>>
>-------------------|-------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
>> >|     |   |   |    |    |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >| RTL | o | o | w/ | w/ | n |  *  |  n  | y  | o  | y  |  y  | 2.0.x |  y
>> |  n  |
>> >| v1  |   |   |8254|8254|   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |    |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
>> >|     |   |   |    | w/ |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |8254|   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    | +  |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> | in  |
>> >|     |   |   | w/ |TSC |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >| RTL | o | o |    |    | y |  *  | **  | y  | o  | y  |  y  | 2.2.x |  n
>> |deve-|
>> >| v2  |   |   |8254|APIC|   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    | in |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |lopm.|
>> >|     |   |   |    |SMP |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |    |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
>> >|     |   |   |    |8254|   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    | in |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |UP -|   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |SMP |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   | w/ | &  |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |  y
>> |     |
>> >| RTAI| y | y |    |MUP | y |  *  | **  | y  | o  | y  |  y  | 2.2.x |
>> |  n  |
>> >| v.6 |   |   |8254|    |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |(for
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |APIC|   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |1
>> CPU|     |
>> >|     |   |   |    | in |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |
>> |only)|     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |SMP |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    | &  |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>> >|     |   |   |    |MUP |   |     |     |    |    |    |     |       |
>> |     |
>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
>> >
>> > y - embeded in the RT modules
>> > n - not implemented
>> > o - optional (it can be "insmod'ed" separately)
>> > * - in RTAI, a POSIX lite API is implemented on top of the original API
>> >     in RTL, the original API is implemented on top of a POSIX lite API.
>> >** - RTAI - dynamic thread creation, conditional variables and priority
>> >            inheritance mutex,
>> >     RTL - static thread creation.
>> >
>> >
>> >Original API comparison
>> >=======================
>> >
>> >  What follows is a comparison btw the two original APIs (RTAI
>> >and RTLv1). We are not listing the POSIX (lite) API present in
>> >both recent releases of RTAI and RTL.
>> >
>> >
>> >set up peridic mode
>> >------------------                 
>> >
>> >RTL:
>> >    RTIME task_ticks;
>> >        task_ticks = (RT_TICKS_PER_SEC/FREQ);
>> >    rtl_set_periodic_mode(task_ticks);
>> >
>> >RTAI:       
>> >    RTIME task_ticks;
>> >    rt_set_periodic_mode(void);
>> >    task_ticks = nano2count(1000000000/FREQ)
>> >        start_rt_timer(task_ticks)
>> >
>> >
>> >Tell Linux you will be using the FPU
>> >--------------------------------------        
>> >
>> >RTL:
>> >        ??
>> >
>> >RTAI:
>> >    rt_linux_use_fp(1)
>> >
>> >
>> >initialise a task
>> >-----------------
>> >
>> >RTL:
>> >        rt_task_init(   RT_TASK *task,
>> >                    void (*fn)(int),
>> >                    int data,
>> >                    int stack_size,
>> >                    int priority )
>> >
>> >        If it uses the FPU, add:
>> >
>> >        rt_task_use_fp( RT_TASK *task, 1 )
>> >
>> >RTAI:
>> >    rt_task_init(   RT_TASK *task,
>> >                        void (*fn)(int),
>> >                    int data,
>> >                    int stack_size,
>> >                    int priority,
>> >                    int uses_fpu,
>> >                    void (*signal)(void) )
>> >                            
>> >
>> >
>> >set a (periodic) task running
>> >-----------------------------
>> >
>> >RTL/RTAI:
>> >    
>> >    rt_task_make_periodic( RT_TASK *task,
>> >                            RTIME start_time_ticks,
>> >                            RTIME period_ticks)
>> >
>> >
>> >suspend a running task until the next tick
>> >-------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >RTL:
>> >    rt_task_wait(void)
>> >
>> >RTAI:
>> >    rt_task_wait_period(void)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >cleanup/stop a task
>> >--------------------
>> >
>> >RTAI:               stop_rt_timer(void)
>> >RTL/RTAI:   rt_task_suspend(RT_TASK *task)
>> >            rt_task_delete( RT_TASK *task)
>> >  
>> >
>> >create a fifo
>> >--------------
>> >
>> >RTL:
>> >            rtf_create(unsigned int fifo, int fifo_size)
>> >                      
>> >RTAI:
>> >            rtf_create_using_bh(unsigned int, int size, 0)
>> >
>> >NOTE: both can be used with the simple rtf_create, but the behaviour is
>> >different.  Under RTAI, a user task will only be woken up at the next
>> >run of schedule (this is an intended feature).  To get the same effect
>> >of waking up as soon as possible, use the above code.
>> >
>> >
>> >put data to a fifo
>> >-------------------
>> >
>> >RTL/RTAI:
>> >            rtf_put(unsigned int fifo, void *buf, int count)
>> >
>> >
>> >get data from a fifo
>> >----------------------
>> >
>> >RTL/RTAI:
>> >            rtf_get(usigned int fifo, void *buf, int count)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >destroy a fifo
>> >---------------
>> >
>> >RTL/RTAI:
>> >            rtf_destroy(usigned int fifo)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Filename comparison
>> >===================
>> >
>> >Another problem is the name and location of files. This means that
>> >Makefiles and code has to be changed to locate the different include
>> >files. 
>> >
>> >Header names
>> >-----------
>> >
>> >RTL:
>> >    rtl_fifo.h, rtl_sched.h
>> >
>> >RTAI:
>> >    rtai_fifos.h, rtai_sched.h
>> >
>> >Note: in addition you must also include rtai.h first for RTAI.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >           -------------< G. N. DeSouza >-------------
>> >           ---------< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>---------
>> >           --< http://rvl1.ecn.purdue.edu/~gnelson >--
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
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