Hi Mayka,

Things still happen, but there's no me for them to happen to - hence no 
attacments/aversions that lead to discrimination/duality. You can still chop 
wood and carry water, but with no sense of an I doing something.

Mike




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From: maria818448 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 1:01:51
Subject: Re: [Zen] Change

  
Mike:

How does one function in the real world of survival as non identification with 
the ego?. 


Mayka

--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
> 
> If a person still identifies with his ego, then his actions/emotions will 
>change 
>
> in accordance with the situations and circumastances around him. 
> 'Personality' 

> is nothing but a consensual label to these emotions as seen by people in the 
> subjects social group. To dis-identify from the self is to live in the 
> changeless Self.
> 
> Mike
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: ED <seacrofter001@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sun, 27 February, 2011 22:41:38
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Change
> 
>   
> 
> Hi Mike and All,
> Excluding physical changes, it is hard to apprehend whether, in general, 
> humans change or not. The most appropriate answer I can think of is: "Yes 
> and 

> no."
> For instance, through psychodrama, cognitive therapy, behavioral therapy, 
> exposure to the Dharma, participation in 'human potential' workshops, or 
> something else, his attitudes and behaviors have been considerably modified 
> for 
>
> the better (or worse) as seen by those who know him - but his basic 
> personality 
>
> has remained unchanged.
> --ED
>  
>  
> --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Finally back in Japan after over 2 months in India! Ok, 'change'... Yes, we 
>all 
>
> >
> > change every second of every minute of every day. What is important is to 
>find 
>
> 
> > out what doesn't change.
> > 
> > Mike
> 
>  
> V asked:
> Sorry I haven't been around in awhile....I've been reading the posts in the 
> > group, but I myself haven't posted in many months. I do have a question, 
> > however.
> > Can people change? And by change, I mean can people change in a very 
> >fundamental 
> >
> > manner? If so, how is it done?
>





      

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