What are the other possible sources?

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Steve,
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> My focus is more on 'the ultimate source of emotions' because of question
> Tao Shei Fei asked:
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> > "... when you are deconditioning yourself to these "bad habits," are you
> aware also of their source?"
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> Two possible 'ultimate sources'  are:
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> o The evolutionary biological-psychological model as to how humans have
> evolved with traits, including emotions, that maximize evolutionary
> fitness in the Darwinian process.
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> o The other is the Buddhist perspective of transmission of karmic
> tendencies in the process of death and rebirth.
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> --ED
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> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@...> wrote:
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> > Hi ED. I agree with you on this. I certainly don't think that people
> > should never be angry when it is appropriate to the situation. What I am
> really talking about are pervasive conditioned patterns of response across
> the board. For Aversion types, even when they are not angry, there is still
> a subtle urge to push away, and escape from, people, places and things.
> Anger is sometimes perfectly appropriate, imo. If I see a child being
> abused, I will certainly allow the quite appropriate anger to energize my
> appropriate response to protect the child. IMO.
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> > Steve
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> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" seacrofter001@ wrote:
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> From the perspective of  an 'ultimate natural source', the potential for
> anger, greed, lust and so on exist in humans, because these traits over the
> millennia have enhanced Darwinian fitness.
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> "Natural selection is the process by which traits become more or less
> common in a population due to consistent effects upon the survival or
> reproduction of their bearers. It is a key mechanism of evolution."
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> Human ability to anger is embedded in the deep structure of the human brain
> - the Limbic System, as it has significant reproductive fitness enhancing
> tendencies (when not misused.) Hence the difficulty humans face when
> attempting to 'control' or  'erase' anger.
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> In short, from a this-worldly perspective, (appropriate) anger is normal
> and natural in humans, for, when allowed to be expressed sparingly,  it can
> contribute to individual human interest, to family interest, or to group
> interest.
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> --ED
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> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, yonyonson@... wrote:
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> > ... when you are deconditioning yourself to these "bad habits," are you
> aware also of their source?
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> > Tao Shei Fei
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