Steve,
 
Probabalistically determined is still deterministic by probability. If you toss 
a coin a million times, the probabality shows you close to 500,000 heads and 
500,000 tails. If it is completely chaotic, you may get 699,999 heads and 
300,001 tails, or a 999,999 to 1 ratio.

So there are still rules and laws, though more complex.
 
Anthony
--- On Mon, 4/4/11, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote:


From: SteveW <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Why bother with Zazen? Better a Roulette
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, 4 April, 2011, 1:31 AM


  





--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>  
> You are smart enough to cover both 'chance' and 'necessity'. These two also 
> include all four:
>  
> God,
> Fate,
> Chance, and
> Chaos.
>  
> Nobody can argue with you.
>  
> The question remains whether 'chance' has some 'necessity' elements, like in 
> the case of Heisenburg Uncertainty Prinicple. From the uncertain location and 
> velocity, it leads to the certainty of probability and all the way to quantum 
> mechanics.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> Anthony, I am not trying to dodge the question! What I have said is the 
> generally accepted scientific view at this time. Reality is probabilistic, 
> not rigidly determined. BTW, you are probably well educated on Buddhism 
> enough to know that Gotama vigorously opposed the view-point of the Hindu 
> Gosala, who was a determinist. Gosala's view-point was likely similar to 
> Advaita Vedanta today.
Steve
> 
>
>






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