ED,

In my opinion shikantaza is zazen.  Anything else like counting or following 
the breath or koans are only teaching techniques to get you to shikantaza.

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> The list, author unknown is to be found in the source below.
> 
> Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation>
> 
> Shikantaza is an awareness practice, whereas zazen involves both
> concentration meditation (breath-counting for instance) and shikantaza,
> in varying extents.
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > ED,
> >
> > Under the ZEN BUDDHIST MEDITATION PRACTICES what do you think whomever
> made up this list (you?) thinks is the difference between 'zazen' and
> 'shikantaza'?
> >
> > Thanks...Bill!
> 
> 
> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" seacrofter001@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation>
>




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