Anthony,

As you probably know 'jai dum' means 'black heart'.  English uses the same 
phrase for someone like the Evil Witch in nursery stories.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
>  
> I would like to quit intellectuals and join the affectives. Bill advises that 
> my heart should not be too weak, or I will be 'jai dum'.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Fri, 22/4/11, ED <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: ED <seacrofter001@...>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Heart
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, 22 April, 2011, 10:38 AM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anthony,
> From one perspective, there are three personality types: Vital, Affective 
> and Intellectual.  Most here and in general are intellectual; Mayka and JM 
> may be affectives.
> Each type has a strong, a weak and a middling centre. For example, 
> affectives who are strong in feeling, (heart), tend to be weakest at doing, 
> (navel), while adequate at thinking, (third eye). This is set forth in the 
> following table:
>  
>  
> Type/Centre    Strong        Middling     Weak
> Vital                   navel        
>    heart           third eye
>  
> Affective            heart          third eye     
>  navel
>  
> Intellectual       third eye     navel            heart
> 
> Source:  http://shivayoga.org/html/vitalpeculiarsolid.html
> --ED
>  
> --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> >
> 
> JM,
>  
> Are you analyzing and intellectualizing? Don't worry. I am not criticizing 
> you. Gotama himself did a lot of that. How can I criticize the Buddha? In 
> this human world, we cannot avoid it.
>  
> The reason I keep asking you about 'heart' is that I am trying to figure out 
> what your 'Heart Chan' is all about.
>  
> You say, 'Throughout this journey, there is no need for the mind to 
> appear. ' What do you mean by 'mind'?
>  
> The fact that there is no Chinese word for 'mind' gives rise to 
> misunderstanding. Since 2 thousand years ago, 'xin' has been used to 
> translate both heart and mind. But in English they are differeent things. 
> Lets look into your favorite book Diamond Sutra:
>  
> "We should develop a mind that does not abide in anything"
>  
> The words caused Huineng to have his first insight.
>  
> Now if I say, "we should not develop a heart that does not abide in 
> anything." Bill's stick is waiting for me, because he thinks I am going to be 
> cool hearted and cruel.
>  
> Anthony
>  
>




------------------------------------

Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    [email protected] 
    [email protected]

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    [email protected]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Reply via email to