Hi Anthony,
Thank you for your continual interest in "heart" and its various meaning
and interpretations. My teacher would answer your question the
following way--
"It is for me to say and for you to experience."
Diamond Sutra would say, "The heart is not heart just named heart."
Buddha practice first then described his journey. I am here merely
described my journey of my practice.
My description itself has no value whatsoever. They are just words.
I am sorry if I have confused you. Please forgive me.
JM
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 4/21/2011 3:44 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
JM,
Are you analyzing and intellectualizing? Don't worry. I am not
criticizing you. Gotama himself did a lot of that. How can I criticize
the Buddha? In this human world, we cannot avoid it.
The reason I keep asking you about 'heart' is that I am trying to
figure out what your 'Heart Chan' is all about.
You say, 'Throughout this journey, there is no need for the mind to
appear. ' What do you mean by 'mind'?
The fact that there is no Chinese word for 'mind' gives rise to
misunderstanding. Since 2 thousand years ago, 'xin' has been used to
translate both heart and mind. But in English they are differeent
things. Lets look into your favorite book Diamond Sutra:
"We should develop a mind that does not abide in anything"
The words caused Huineng to have his first insight.
Now if I say, "we should not develop a heart that does not abide in
anything." Bill's stick is waiting for me, because he thinks I am
going to be cool hearted and cruel.
Anthony
--- On *Fri, 22/4/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
/<[email protected]>/* wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Heart
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 22 April, 2011, 1:19 AM
Hi Maria,
It seems that you are now the only one mentioning "heart". Please
let me support by making a few statements for those "heart-less"
sentient beings in the forum. hahaha. :-) just having some fun.
Heart in our school carries two meanings. It is a label
indicating a location in the middle of our chest to let our Self
Nature unfold or to reach Kensho. It is where we will be in sync
with the Nature of the Universe(satori). Heart in our school also
means the essence of all phenomena visible and invisible. Hence
the heart(the spirit or essence) within us is not difference from
the heart of the universe.(the spirit or essence). They are one
of the same. Therefore we call our "Heart Chan Practice" a pure
spiritual practice.
Heart carries no memory, no knowledge nor does it analyze. Heart
is pure chi, compassion and wisdom. Hence, heart makes no
judgment and accept all phenomena as is. Heart is the direct
connection to every moment. Heart could not function if
otherwise. Heart is our Grand Central station as per Daniel.
As we integrate all chakras in our body into one, all chi channels
into one. Our entire being integrates one. We become one heart
or one spirit or one essence. (Actually it is rather abstract.
Sorry.) Then we are able to sync with the heart of the universe.
It is a gradual process and increases in frequency. Then suddenly
our "heart", or "essence of our being" is completely in sync from
the location of our heart to the "essence of the universe".
Throughout this journey, there is no need for the mind to appear.
There is no need for thinking, understanding, debating, arguing.
Just sit, as always emphasized by Bill.
Just sense and feel with the "heart". More often than not, once
that occurs, the first reaction is usually tears. We call that,
"you found home." :-)
JM
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com <http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com/>
http://www.heartchan.org <http://www.heartchan.org/>
On 4/21/2011 8:01 AM, Maria Lopez wrote:
/Correction:/
//
/Oops, I clicked the wrong word over the spellcheker in previous
post. I meant: "No one can steal the heart as we all have it in
us. We can only be awakened in the heart". /
//
/Mayka
/
