ED,

DT Suzuki certainly is expressing below the results of a lot of discursive 
thinking.

I don't agree with all of the details of his quote below, but I do agree with 
his central point - zen is the foundation of all.

I consider DT Suzuki primarily a Buddhist scholar.  Although he did study Zen 
Buddhism he never received 'inca' (permission to teach) as a dharma successor 
of any Zen master - that I know of.  His books do address Buddhism and Zen 
Buddhism from a intellectual, scholarly perspective so this quote doesn't 
surprise me.

He is not someone that I would look to or recommend as a great communicator of 
zen.  Buddhsim and maybe Zen Buddhism - yes; but just plain old zen - no.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi zendervish, Bill and All,
> 
> DT Suzuki appears to be indulging in a lot of un-zenlike discursive
> thinking, no?
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "salik888" <novelidea8@> wrote:
> >
> Greetings
> 
> This little tidbit of Buddhist Modernism throws a loop around the
> experience of
> the integral source that Sufism likewise expresses.
> 
> Zen is the ultimate fact of all philosophy and religion. Every
> intellectual
> effort must culminate in it, or rather must start from it, if it is to
> bear any
> practical fruits. Every religious faith must spring from it if it has to
> prove
> at all efficiently and livingly workable in our active life. Therefore
> Zen is
> not necessarily the fountain of Buddhist thought and life alone; it is
> very much
> alive also in Christianity, Mohammedanism, in Taoism, and even
> positivistic
> Confucianism. What makes all these religions and philosophies vital and
> inspiring, keeping up their usefulness and efficiency, is due to the
> presence in
> them of what I may designate as the Zen element.
> 
> DT Suzuki
> 
> zendervish
>




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