Regardless of the derivation of the word, to say something then dismiss it
is sophistry. Words cannot be unsaid.
On Jul 26, 2011 10:38 AM, "Bill!" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sophistry was given a bad name by Plato. The Sophists were his
arch-rivals. They were skilled in rhetoric, especially persuasive speech
which targeted emotions. He won, so now we worship logic. (But still find
that rhetoric is just as powerful today as it was then.)
> ...Bill!
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> --- In [email protected], Mark Perew <mperew@...> wrote:
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>> Sophistry
>> On Jul 26, 2011 10:19 AM, "billsmart" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>> > There is presently only one official 'teacher' on the Zen Forum that I
>> know of: JMJM. He does preach some, but always ends his sermons with 'I
have
>> said not a word' and therefore remains blameless.
>> >
>> > ...Bill!
>> >
>> > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
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>> >> Bill, do teachers on the Zen Forum preach a lot? --ED
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>> >> PS: Is not 'Zen Forum' an oxymoron?
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>> >> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Mayka,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for your excellent definition of 'preaching'. I agree with
it.
>> >> >
>> >> > In that sense I do not beleive zen teachers 'preach'. If they do
>> >> they've lost the immediateness and sponteneiety that characterizes
zen.
>> >> I do suspect many Buddhist teachers preach. Chrisitians, Jews and
>> >> Muslims preach a lot. IMO.
>> >> >
>> >> > ...Bill!
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