Mayka,

Thanks for your excellent definition of 'preaching'.  I agree with it.

In that sense I do not beleive zen teachers 'preach'.  If they do they've lost 
the immediateness and sponteneiety that characterizes zen.  I do suspect many 
Buddhist teachers preach.  Chrisitians, Jews and Muslims preach a lot.  IMO.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
>
> ED and Bill;
>  
> The word "Preaching" sounds to me as a monotonous repetitive lethany of 
> religious catechisms.   There are times in which we all "preach" which 
> means that what we say is not alive in us at the moment of being expressed 
> out.  We only repeat what we heard or even maybe occasionally have 
> experienced.  But that is not alive in us at the present moment of 
> talking. Then, there are other times in which the receiver has a complex 
> with "preaching" and as a result of that mental formation,  everything 
> he/she hears is received as preaching. 
>  
> Mayka
>  
>  
> --- On Sun, 24/7/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen elements?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sunday, 24 July, 2011, 9:03
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> ED,
> 
> I had to look up the word 'sententious'. Merriam-Webster Online defines it as:
> a: given to or abounding in aphoristic expression
> b: given to or abounding in excessive moralizing
> 
> Then I had to look up 'aphoristic'. Merriam-Webster Online defines it as:
> a: a concise statement of a principle
> b: terse formulation of a truth or sentiment
> 
> With those definitions in mind I'd say:
> - zen defnitely favors aphorisitic expressions but does absolutely no 
> moralizing
> - Christianity favors aphorisitic experssions and defintitely likes to 
> moralize.
> 
> So my answer to your question below is, "No, not entirely."
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Is it the case that sententious preaching, rational and/or non-rational,
> > is an element that Zen and Christianity tend to hold in common?
> >
>




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