I know what I am experiencing is the truth because I live on my own terms and 
there is no authority to tell me otherwise.  Meditation or samadhi is a 
subjective experience that is real.  When one meditates, what they experience 
is obviously beyond words because they are not saying anything.  

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> When you think you are experiencing the truth - whatever that might be -
> how will you be certain that that it is 'the truth'?
> 
> How do you know that 'the truth' is beyond words?
> 
> Thanks, ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Ryan Mishler <ryan.mishler@> wrote:
> >
> > I think Zen is about experiencing the truth by experience, which is
> beyond words.  I don't think there's anything wrong with talking about
> Zen socially.  I think Zen is about getting back to the root of
> Buddhism.  The four noble truths of Buddhism are suffering, the
> accumulation of suffering, the alleviation of suffering and the path
> away from suffering.  Any religion tends to have a lot of ideology
> around it and Zen is about getting past that.  Personally I feel like
> Zen is about stilling the mind, which it has in common with Yoga.
>




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