Kirk, My point exactly!
...Bill! --- In [email protected], "kirk crist" <kcrist9@...> wrote: > > all scient ific observations and therefore the conclusions come from a highly > filtered and conditioned mind > > From: Bill! ific > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 4:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen and Buddhism > > > Anthony, > > And so, little grasshopper, are you saying that 'historical facts' and > 'science' aren't based on a belief system? > > ...Bill! > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > Ã > > Belief systems and historical facts are different things. It is OK to deify > > Buddha in sutras or any scriptures compiled in the name of Buddha, as long > > as you bear that in mind. However, historical facts such as the real life > > of Buddha and that of the sixth Patriarch had better be maintained in as > > close to history as possible. I consider the latter a 'science'. > > Ã > > Anthony > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > To: mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2011 4:56 PM > > Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen and Buddhism > > > > > > Ã > > Anthony and ED, > > > > I don't take any of the Sutras or the story of the Flower Sermon as > > absolute fact. I just assume they are mythic to a greater or lessor extent. > > Whether or not any of these things written about in the Sutras, the Bible > > or any other Holy Books actually happened is not important to me. > > > > I still believe the 'seeds' of Buddhism are containted in the Sutras; the > > 'seed' of Zen is revealed in the Flower Sermon; and the 'seed' of zen > > (Buddha Nature) already exists in every sentient being. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Anthony, > > > > > > All teachings are continually evolving. See: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha-nature > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha-nature> > > > > > > I find the Flower Sutra to be magnificent. Anyway, what matter to me is > > > that the Flower Sutra edifies and inspires me - and that's all that > > > matters to me. > > > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ED, > > > > > > > > If the Flower Sermon appeared in the 14th century, while the Buddha > > > lived in the 6th Century BC, what happened in the 2,000 year gap? Did > > > the physical Buddha returned from the grave to transmit the dharma? Or > > > the 'dharmakaya' of the Buddha showed up to spread the untold teaching? > > > > > > > > Anthony > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
