Bill, Well stated and an important point!
Edgar On Aug 28, 2012, at 9:21 PM, Bill! wrote: > Both attachment and desire require the same thing - a self. A self requires > one thing - dualism that allows the mind to believe there is a self that is > separate from everything else. > > The real key here IMO is dualism, dualistic thought. In my experience when > that dissolves so does the self and all its qualities including desire and > attachments - and the result that they bring: suffering. > > That is Buddhism 101 to me...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > > > On 8/28/2012 4:26 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > The translation I've always heard has been 'attachments', not > > > 'desire'...Bill! > > > > Attachment reflects desire, desire reflects attachment. Grasping. Desire > > to get something other than what is. The there's desire to escape/be rid > > of something that is - rejection. > > > > Same motion, different perceived direction. > > > > Then there is the 'self' who does so. Groping around in the dark, > > holding on to this, pushing away from that, to orient self... > > Identification... > > > >
