While all this is true in the sense you mean it Edgar, it is built on a conveniently false understanding of transcendence as escape - except for the last line - which is as good a description of transcendence as any.

KG


On 9/12/2012 7:03 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:

Kris, Mike, JM,

It's very easy to transcend the body and go directly to Nirvana.

Just kill yourself.... Total irrevocable mindlessness!

As long as you are in your body you can NEVER transcend it except partially for a few hours at most... This realization was a major step in my own Zen. Buddha also tried extreme asceticism and finally rejected it as a false path...

Trying to transcend your body is a false path...

As long as you are in your body you MUST deal with the world of forms including your body and its needs. The way to do that is to realize that Zen is the realization of the world of forms as MANIFESTATIONS of Buddha Nature rather than something that stands between you and Buddha Nature and that keeps you from enlightenment...

The world of forms realized as the manifestation of Buddha Nature IS enlightenment!

Edgar


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