Chris, Joe, et al... I never had this happen at any sesshin I attended but there were times that the timekeeper did not ring the bell on the schedule specified. In the times when this was a longer period than scheduled (usually 40-minutes) there started to be some scattered squirming around and shifting of leg positions towards the end.
I did once attend a management training conference in Seattle with about 30 other 'young execs' from various parts of the US where on the first day we were all instructed to meet in a small auditorium-like conference room for a buffet breakfast, a welcome and to be advised of the schedule for the next 3 days. We were to meet at 8A. Most of us showed up around 7:45A and I think everyone was there and in a seat by the 8A starting time. There was no breakfast or coffee anywhere. 8A came and went. Then 8:15A. Murmuring began in the audience. By 8:30A some people had stood up and were walking around complaining about the delay. Soon some said they'd had enough of this and were going up to the coffee shop and would check back later. Groups formed and decided some would stay and some would go and wait in their rooms for a call (there were no mobile phones then). A few of us migrated to the back of the room, introduced ourselves and just sat around getting to know each other. About 9A those of us left in the room agreed to call room service and have some breakfast items and coffee delivered to the conference room. When it came we called the others who had gone back to their rooms and they came down to eat with us. About 11A a couple of the members got up and went to the front of the room. They were the instructors. They said they started the conference this way to put us in an unexpected situation to see how we dealt with stress. Some bailed out, some organized groups, some went off on their own, some took initiate to order food, etc... The entire conference was full of strange things like that and some very interesting assignments. It was almost as good as a sesshin! It was well worth my time and I learned things there I have drawn on all of my professional life. Just 'blast from the past' that seemed somewhat similar to Joe's account of the Suzuki Roshi leaving a sesshin...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > Chris, > > That never happened in our old sangha in Tucson. We regularly held 7-day > sesshin with NO teacher at all. More "Zen" that way, eh? (Merle can tell you > what "Zen" means; I can't). > > In fact, sesshin without a teacher is the norm. Not everyone knows this. > > Sesshin WITH a teacher is called "O-Sesshin". That is a fact, and is a > matter of record, like the Blue Cliff Record. O-Sesshin is "Great Sesshin". > The university in Japan at O-tani is at a place called "Great Valley". > > We were a strong sangha, and did what we had to do, and what we knew best how > to do, and do for each other. It was good to have a teacher eventually, too. > But we had to teach him a thing or two, too. > > --Joe > > > ChrisAustinLane <chris@> wrote: > > > > There is a story they tell in the Bay Area about Suzuki just leaving and > > not coming back for hours and hours and letting everyone figure out what to > > do! > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/