Bill!, Bill! wrote, as also in-full below:
"This IMO is the essence of zen". Bottle it! As cologne, or after-shave (though I do not shave). I deferred my answer earlier to Salik, but I can say now that "Realist", and "Realism", for Dogen, et al., is radical. Not in the Surfer's sense, or as in Valley-Speak, but in its older dictionary sense, and close to the Latin, err-r, root of the word. It is the unsophisticated, unembellished view (or Viewer). It's the view as an awakened person registers it and participates in it (or as the view participates in her/him). Nothing added, nothing gained. The word "Mystical" in "Mystical Realist" just conveys that the Realism is entirely experiential, not something thought about, theorized about, or modeled. It is direct experience of the nature of things, as revealed in the moment *as* direct experience, and in no wise removed from the moment. Just as you said, Bill!(!). ;-) --Joe > "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Zendervish, > > 'Realist' does not convey any 'special' or 'elitist' connotation to me. > 'Realist' to me just means someone who takes things as they are, without > trying to interpret or change them to suit their purposes. > > This IMO is the essence of zen. > > ...Bill! > > > --- In [email protected], "salik888" <novelidea8@> wrote: > > > > In addition, Realist denotes something special, something elitist as well, > > does it not? > > > > You know, people use they hands in different ways. ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
