Bill!,

You've had a taste of my tough love.  See?, that sweet stuff was not so bad.

And I see you're set on keeping the wine cellar (contents) to yourself.  That's 
a very personal decision.  ;-)

The gentleman DOES have a sweet-tooth!

--Joe

> "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
> 
> You speak the truth about the way I discovered/uncovered Just THIS!  But my 
> reference in this thread was to the ESSENCE of zen, not the various routes 
> you can or should try taking to discover/uncover the essence.
> 
> As I am sure you know zen literature sometimes refers to what I call 'fluff' 
> as the 'finger pointing to the moon', or 'the boat which takes you to the 
> other shore'.  In my experience, and I see it all the time on this Forum, one 
> of the biggest difficulties people have with zen practice is getting 
> mesmerized by the finger or too comfortably settled-in to a perpetual boat 
> cruise.
> 
> Some people need love.  Some need tough-love.  You can give them the former 
> and I will give them the latter.
> 
> Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.




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