Siska, In case Edgar is having a 'zen moment' and fails to respond I, as co-moderator, will cover this one.
IMO... - All sentient beings have Buddha Nature. - The oft abused term 'enlightenment' means you are aware of Buddha Nature to some degree or other So...an 'unenlightened being' would be either a being that is not sentient or a sentient being who is not aware of Buddha Nature. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], siska_cen@... wrote: > > Edgar, > > If I remember correctly, you were the one who told me, when I first joined > this group to learn more about Zen, that all beings have Buddha nature, > already enlightened in the first place. > > Now you are saying there are unenlightened beings.... > > I don't get it.... > > Siska > -----Original Message----- > From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:10:28 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fw: peek a boo ... > > Siska, > > Because they ruined the perfect naturally produced forms of the stones by > cementing them all together in a mindless unenlightened mish mash. Did you > see Merle's photo? > > Of course in the deepest sense everything is reality therefore everything is > Zen, but this artificial concoction is the reality of illusion, produced by > illusion, by unenlightened beings, and thus is Zen only when seen as NOT > being zen! > > Edgar > > > > On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:25 AM, siska_cen@... wrote: > > > Doesn't Zen include everything, including the so called act of dumb > > Chinese? Why is this one Zenless? > > > > Siska > > > > From: Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:49:00 -0500 > > To: <[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fw: peek a boo ... > > > > > > Here is where Zenless dumb Chinese absolutely ruin the beautiful natural > > shapes of these stones by pasting them together in a hodge podge.... > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> <IMG_6116.jpg> > >> > >> IMG_6116 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
