Joe,

You sure always have a lot to say for someone who doesn't want to say a lot.

I appreciate plants being sentient because it seems to me that they have senses 
and can experience.

...Bill! 

--- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>
> Bill!,
> 
> I won't say.
> 
> My point about hearing about them at the end of sesshin in this way is that 
> it is just so welcome, and so unexpected (except after the first 45 or 50 
> sesshin attended), that it arouses laughter, in what has for seven solid days 
> been (usually) a pretty solemn and silent atmosphere.  Wonderful.
> 
> If they're not sentient, they *are*, when we snicker and smile about them, in 
> deepest and lightest lively appreciation.  ;-)
> 
> Share with us how you appreciate them to be sentient.  Surely they "trope" 
> toward the sun, and clearly have a Life, and die.  And then their husks "live 
> on".  I've sometimes been as impressed with the life of a pile of dry sticks 
> as I have been with a hale and green-leaf standing Maple.
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> > 
> > Plants, such as bushes and grasses, are sentient beings.  Do you think 
> > otherwise?
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Edgar, Bill!, All,
> > > 
> > > I won't say yes, I won't say no.
> > > 
> > > But just to note that...
> > > 
> > > ...at the close of sesshin in the Diamond Sangha, there is a closing 
> > > ceremony, and the Ino intones a Dedication (I've added my emphasis as 
> > > all-caps, and preceding and leading stars):
> > > 
> > > In the purity and clarity of the Dharmakaya,
> > > in the fullness and perfection of the Sambogakaya,
> > > in the infinite variety of the Nirmanakaya,
> > > we dedicate our sesshin and our reciting
> > > of Maka Hannya Haramita Shin Gyo- to:
> > > 
> > > The Ancient Seven Buddhas, Dai Osho-,
> > > Shakyamuni Buddha, Dai Osho-,
> > > All Founding Teachers, past, present, future, Dai Osho-;
> > > 
> > > *AND FOR THE ENLIGHTENMENT OF BUSHES AND GRASSES*
> > > and the many beings of the world;
> > > 
> > > All Buddhas throught space and time;
> > > all Bodhisattvas, Mahasattvas;
> > > the great Prajna Paramita.
> > > 
> > > --Joe
> > > 
> > > PS  At that happy-sad moment, many people hearing the emphasized line 
> > > will bubble out in laughter, and smile... even the Ino.  It's great.
> > > 
> > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill,
> > > > 
> > > > Buddha Nature... is THE ONLY substance of reality because it is being 
> > > > or existence itself.
> > >
> >
>



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