is that so joe..well well well...how the hell do you plan your day's daily 
activities?... via remote control?...anything goes?..

 you'd be a bit hard pressed to cook the evening meal without rational 
thought... what is it you are trying so hard to say?

 to survive you have to behave in a rational way if you are discussing 
meditation then that is a different story

as the old saying goes one hand clapping..can you hear it?

 coupled with the golden gong in the far but near distance?

 i thank you for your advice

 cheers

merl


  
Hi, Merle,

Merle wrote:
"you have to be rational to survive joe"

Maybe that's true.  Is an amoeba rational?  How about a Gum tree?

Even though we Humans use and need reason for some parts of life as
it is lived lately, reason is useless and a pernicious hindrance to
awakening.  Not everybody knows this.

In a Zen forum, we do not sing the praises of reason. 

In our practice, we simply let it go.  It's a useless activity.

When you need reason, pick it up again.

So it goes for me, and other practitioners of my acquaintance, and our teachers.

--Joe

> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> you have to be rational to survive joe...merle
>   
> Joe,
> 
> I agree with you about all this.
> 
> I too was educated in and used rationality intensely in my profession - 
> computers/data analysis.  It's very useful for making a living.
> 
> Modern Western education is primarily about memorization and secondarily 
> about rationality.
> 
> Zen is about experience.


 

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