Bill, I agree the effectiveness of a Bodhisattva is also important. And I certainly wish I were more effective in the way I present the truth of Zen.
However when minds are closed to the truth there are limits to what a Bodhisattva can teach. So from that perspective it's always better just to cut through to the bare truth whether it falls on an open mind or not. The problem with coddling emotionally needy feelings and delusions is that it tends to reinforce them. On the other hand just telling the bare truth like I do tends to elicit all sorts of defensive ego mechanisms. So what's a Bodhisattva to do? In my case just give up and go back to writing my book I guess..... :-) Edgar On May 26, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Joe wrote: > Bill!, Chris, > > A bodhisattva might still take on the conventionalization of a "your", or a > "my", just so as not to weird you out, and to be of help or service. This too > is called Compassion. > > It's not impossible to do this, even in the awakened state. Mind you, it may > not be easy, but it's not impossible. Not once you see, after a while, what's > at stake, and feel one's true responsibility to be not only "honest", but > effective. This is the depth and sincerity of the life and career of a > bodhisattva. You've got to walk all sides of the street, not just two sides, > ...or One! Especially NOT one! > > Dualism bites. But not if you're un-bitten. Then you can use it for the sake > of all beings. And you had better: it's "one" of the best tools in our > medical bag. > > But don't try this at Home, unless you've been to the trenches, please. Go to > the trenches, NOW. > > --Joe > > > "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > > Chris, > > > > I know this was a reply to Edgar's post below, but I wasn't sure if it was > > in support or qualifying his post. > > > > I agree with you that the 'your' part of 'your mind' is the critical > > qualifier that signals illusion. This is because it signals dualism. > > > > So yes, I do claim forms arise in the duality created by 'your mind'. If > > 'your mind' does not exist then duality does not exist; then there is only > > the One Mind, the Original Mind - Buddha Nature. > >
