Siska,
Rumi is just describing what happens to all of us - phasing in and out of
awareness of Buddha Nature.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, siska_cen@... wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> > As you'll soon find out Edgar and I have almost the polar opposite opinion
> > on just about everything.
>
> Yes, it amazes me sometimes that you two are, in fact, co-moderators of this
> forum :-P
>
> Your interpretation below was how I understood the poem too. But because I
> thought it was supposed to be all about Buddha Nature, the part after waves
> broke didn't make sense to me. It's not Buddha Nature...
>
> I guess I had pre-conceived ideas about Rumi's poems ;-)
>
>
> Siska
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bill!" <BillSmart@...>
> Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 07:41:22
> To: <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Nice Quote
>
> Siska,
> As you'll soon find out Edgar and I have almost the polar opposite
> opinion on just about everything. In fact he'll probably disagree with
> this statement ;>) and will certainly jump all over the rest of this
> post.
> Rumi's poem/metaphor was:
> I looked for my self,But my self was gone.The boundaries of my beingHad
> disappeared in the sea.Waves broke. Awareness rose again.And a voice
> returned me to myself.It always happens like this.Sea turns on itself
> and foams,And with every foaming bit another body.Another being takes
> form.And when the sea sends word,Each foaming body melts back to
> ocean-breath.- Rumi
> I can just imagine Rumi standing on the beach watching the waves form,
> come rhythmically in, crash upon the beach and then spend themselves by
> slipping back into the sea - losing himself in Buddha Nature and later
> composing this poem. My interpretation of it is:
> I looked for my self,But my self was gone.The boundaries of my beingHad
> disappeared in the sea.
> Rumi is describing the holistic experience of Buddha Nature. The
> illusion of dualism has vanished and his illusion of 'self' as something
> independent and apart from everything else has vanished with it. It has
> vanished into sea which is a metaphor for emptiness.
> Waves broke. Awareness rose again.And a voice returned me to myself.It
> always happens like this.
> Dualism returns. His holistic experience of Buddha Nature has been
> interrupted and his illusion of self has returned. This alternation
> between holism and dualism, between emptiness and self happens
> regularly, much like the waves surging rhythmically upon the beach.
> Sea turns on itself and foams,And with every foaming bit another
> body.Another being takes form.
> Now that he is abiding in dualism all other illusions, perceptions,
> thoughts, etc..., of all other (10,000) things appear.
> And when the sea sends word,Each foaming body melts back to
> ocean-breath.
> But when he returns again to Buddha Nature all these illusions melt back
> into emptiness.
> That's my reading of this anyway. It will be interesting to see what
> Edgar comes up with although I think I could almost write it for him...
> ...Bill!
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, siska_cen@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > I followed until: "Waves broke".
> >
> > The rest is a bit confusing. It's as if the 'self' is back.
> >
> > Siska
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Bill!" BillSmart@
> > Sender: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:04:29
> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > Reply-To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Zen] Nice Quote
> >
> >
> > ..Bill!
> >
>
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