Mike, I did at one time study Zen Buddhism. I was a formal student (every day) starting in the late 1960's for about 5 years, a part-time student (a couple times a week) for about 5 more and a remote student (corresponded and visited a couple times a year)until the mid 1990's. Although we were given some instruction in Buddhism proper the focus was zen, and in my case koan study and shikantaza.
My first zen master was a lay zen master, which means he was not a Buddhist priest. He purposely chose not to be a priest because he thought the then Japanese Zen Buddhist priesthood was corrupt. Once when it the time for the periodic Jukai ceremony (ordination to become a Buddhist) I told him I could not be in town then and asked him if it was necessary for me to become a Buddhist to continue my koan study with him. He told me it was not necessary and that I should only take the precepts if I felt compelled to do so. I didn't go through Jukai then and never have. We never mentioned it again, although when he returned to Japan (he was very old) and I was passed onto to his dharma-successor I think he must have briefed him on this because this 2nd zen master never asked me about Jukai. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote: > > Bill!,<br/><br/>What happened in your past? A Buddhist monk steal your > girlfriend from you or something?? You're so way off understanding what > Buddhism is. Can you honestly say you've studied Buddhism or are you just > going by what you see lay followers in Thailand do? Do you really think John > in accounts, who does a Zen sit once a week and has passed Mu, is more awake > than the Dalai Lama or the monks who practice in the forests of Thailand or > the mountains in Tibet?<br/><br/>Mike <br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail > for iPad > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/