On Jul 21, 2009, at 6:25 AM, F. Wessels wrote:

So to wrap it up. According to Will, a supermicro chassis using a single lsi expander connected to sata disks can utilize the wide sas port between hba and the chassis. (like a J4500 Richard mentioned. How much I like these systems (thumper etc), they're way out of my budget.) Will did see more throughput than a single link could handle. But due to insufficient disks no more i/o could be generated to better demonstrate the availability off the wide sas port. I assume the J4500 is using dual expanders. Richard, can you confirm that the J4500 is using an active/active sata mux per drive to allow failover between expanders?

Yes, this is seen in Figure 1-1 of the Sun Storage J4500 Array
System Overview manual.  Look for the Active-Active MUX (AAMUX).
http://dlc.sun.com/pdf/820-3163-11/820-3163-11.pdf


Aside from this can you also confirm that a wide sas link between a hba and a single expander can be fully utilized when using sata drives? To rephrase, utilization is independent of the disk type (sas or sata)

It is a simple architecture. Think of expanders (and AAMUXes for this case)
as switches, and it might seem more familiar. For a dual-port SAS disk,
that Sun only sells in 2.5" form factor (IIRC), you don't need the AAMUX.
For example, the J4400 is basically the same architecture as the J4500,
except that it accepts SAS and SATA disks. Since there is a mix, it is not
feasible to put the AAMUX on the system board, so they are placed in
the disk carrier. If you look at the exploded part numbers, you'll see a
SATA interposer card (PN 570-1181).
http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/J4400/components
 -- richard



All disclaimers apply.

Regards Frederik
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