Stephen Beecroft wrote:

> -John-
> > It is my understanding of Mormon doctrine that the laws by which
> > Heavenly Father became and exalted being are coeternal with him.
> > They are uncreate.  And it was by obedience to these laws that
> > he because God.
>
> My understanding follows Jim's quotation of Joseph Smith's teachings and
> of the scriptures; that God *instituted laws* among us. Whether those
> laws were pre-existent or not seems of little import. Remember, Marc's
> comment was that God is "subject to 'natural law'". This is demonstrably
> untrue; God is above nature, has created nature, and has instituted her
> laws.
>

It's not demonstrably untrue; I went on to explain that the term had two meanings,
and quoted James E. Talmage and Joseph Fielding Smith to illustrate.

>
> He could, for example, "travel faster than
> light", an event that doesn't even have a well-defined meaning to us.
>

That's my point about telestial law. As Pres. Smith said, he has access to laws we
don't understand. But that doesn't make them any less laws.

--
Marc A. Schindler
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland

“Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lustre, and many more people
see than weigh.” – Lord Chesterfield

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