Stephen Beecroft wrote:
> -John- > > It is my understanding of Mormon doctrine that the laws by which > > Heavenly Father became and exalted being are coeternal with him. > > They are uncreate. And it was by obedience to these laws that > > he because God. > > My understanding follows Jim's quotation of Joseph Smith's teachings and > of the scriptures; that God *instituted laws* among us. Whether those > laws were pre-existent or not seems of little import. Remember, Marc's > comment was that God is "subject to 'natural law'". This is demonstrably > untrue; God is above nature, has created nature, and has instituted her > laws. > It's not demonstrably untrue; I went on to explain that the term had two meanings, and quoted James E. Talmage and Joseph Fielding Smith to illustrate. > > He could, for example, "travel faster than > light", an event that doesn't even have a well-defined meaning to us. > That's my point about telestial law. As Pres. Smith said, he has access to laws we don't understand. But that doesn't make them any less laws. -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland “Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lustre, and many more people see than weigh.” – Lord Chesterfield Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the author’s employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ==^^=============================================================== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===============================================================